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You're right. I was probably being a bit vague trying to be a bit diplomatic.

Stop telling people you have magic powers. Check with a kind yet somewhat removed third party to make sure you're not sending out very creepy/unstable/infantile vibes. Sort this out and try again. Or give up.

Or I suppose, specifically seek to meet the kind of women likely to accept that you have powers and be impressed by this? The internet seems a likely way to do this? Anti sceptics websites, psychic chatrooms, conspiracy theory websites?


Lol this is the first time I found your trolling amusing. It's also the first time I've seen you give sound advice. Having someone review and/or help you make a fool-proof message to send to people on online dating helps but not by much. As for in real life I don't really have much to say on that matter. It seems like C_B is relatively happy with his current status in life (if you exclude the fact that he wants a woman in his life).

Also you're too focused on the fact that he used the word "powers". I think it's fair to say that he wasn't using that term or he at least mixed things up or went to friends for advice on his "game". You're giving him no credit whatsoever and to a certain extent you're looking down on him (even admitting that for some reason he's "doing it wrong" when we all know for the most part people just fall ass backwards into relationships these days).


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No dude. As a lady who meets tons of dudes I can say from my personal perspective that a guy who claims to have powers which he can use to hurt people as desired would get an instant and unwavering GTFO response from me. I don't think I'm overstating how much of a dealbreaker this is.


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No dude. As a lady who meets tons of dudes I can say from my personal perspective that a guy who claims to have powers which he can use to hurt people as desired would get an instant and unwavering GTFO response from me. I don't think I'm overstating how much of a dealbreaker this is.

As much as a I agree that the fact he believes himself to have "powers" is disturbing, if not somewhat telling of his current situation, I doubt very much that he openly admits it to women or people he's just met.

But a certain mentality is required to believe such a thing about yourself, and other not so positive traits tend to come along with it, whether he sees them or not.

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Am I the only one who thinks the "powers" he speaks of are directed towards his physical capabilities; (i.e. ~ brute strength/strongarm tactics)? I don't think he meant in terms of Black Magic...

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exxie wrote:
You're right. I was probably being a bit vague trying to be a bit diplomatic.

Stop telling people you have magic powers. Check with a kind yet somewhat removed third party to make sure you're not sending out very creepy/unstable/infantile vibes. Sort this out and try again. Or give up.

Or I suppose, specifically seek to meet the kind of women likely to accept that you have powers and be impressed by this? The internet seems a likely way to do this? Anti sceptics websites, psychic chatrooms, conspiracy theory websites?


Hello exxie, I can see YOU didn't understand what I said at all. Let's break this down...

(1) I was responding to post number four (TM122's post); My answers were mostly a joke which apparently you didn't get. If you are the lady you claim to be, you basically just made my point for me by letting your emotions run away with you; "damn. I've just gotta argue this guy down..." despite others trying to elaborate on this concept for you in a number of different ways. Don't blame me if you don't have a sense of humor OR an imagination.

(2)With regard to powers, I was referring to two separate things; The wide variety of talents and skills I've accumulated over the years that I've learned give me an edge in life... AND the ability to kick ass and take names when necessary. The second was a joke, as I don't attack, strong arm, or bully people; That more closely resembles what you're trying to do. I do however, limit the ability of people like this to have an effect on my mood and my life (much as I'm doing to you now... :wink: ).

(3) No where in any of my posts (or in any of the responses) did we mention 'magic' or 'psychic' powers. Those were your words, not mine. The fact that you would assume that I go around telling women I meet about my supposed ability to do hocus, pocus, AND THEN start an argument about it, suggests that you are the type to judge a book by its cover before you get your facts straight. This also suggests that you are precisely the kind of woman I avoid like death itself. I'll assume that you have a brain in your skull; as such, you should really learn to think before you speak; it solves a lot of problems later on.

Let me clarify for any member who misinterpreted anything I wrote above. With regard to dating, I've tried several venues and activities and actually met women as a result. Each time, I've taken the approach of a friendly, outgoing guy with a playful side. No money flashing, no alpha male chest pounding, no mind games. I'm just an easy going guy, who got his life straightened out ahead of schedule. And I did it all the easy way; by making wise choices rather than messing around trying to show off like everyone else around me did. Unfortunately, most modern (western) women seem to only cater to men willing to flaunt superficial things. Our consumerist culture only serves to exacerbate this situation; apparently, you're just not 'cool' if you don't try to hump the girl's leg, scare off her boyfriend, and show off your wealth for people. :coolbeans:

When I do meet women (and I have met plenty), they flake out because they're too obsessed with social media and materialistic bullshit. 'James_young', 'tryhard', and 'obiwan' all seem to know exactly what I'm talking about. I'll bet there are other men here who do as well.

Now, does anyone have any 'useful' advice to counteract this situation or are we going to continue to run the 'magic' angle?

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Sorry! There's a lot of stupid going on here sometimes and I assumed this was more of that.

Checking with a third party is usually still a pretty good plan!


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Must admit, the wording of that post about "powers" led me to believe you were in fact talking about some weird sci-fi shit like the kid in twilight zone who sends people away :lol:

Your story sounds normal enough to me. The "regular" crowd runs into these exact same problems, they make movies about it, tv shows about it, songs about it. Although considering you're here I'm going to assume it's a bit more difficult for you to break into such a lifestyle, normal social circle, dating, and all that. Difficulty is to be expected in even the best of circumstances, and it sounds to me like you have yourself pretty well figured out. :coolbeans: Just a matter of wading through all the bullshit now.

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Understandable Exxie. I deal with it too, only more so offline, given my line of work. Let's agree to be constructive about this and maybe we can put our experiences together to find a solution to the problem from which we can all benefit. Sound fair?

Interestingly enough, in the past I have actually sought third party help. Just like the rest of the medical community, they did not recognize what I described to them (what we call L.S.) as a legitimate disorder and were unable (possibly unwilling?) to help. I was instead given antidepressants which were largely ineffective as I have a strong resistance to medication of any kind.

This is the reason I press so hard for personal success. I figure, if I can't share my life, I should make it a damn good one to make this experience as painless as possible.

What other choice do I have?

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Must admit, the wording of that post about "powers" led me to believe you were in fact talking about some weird sci-fi shit like the kid in twilight zone who sends people away :lol:

Nah, the power thing was just a joke about the advantages I've been given in life, nothing more.

If I had to explain it better, I'd say this...

I've always been the token smart, jack-of-all-trades outsider. I was an artist, an athlete, and a techie. To top it off I have (learned) decent people skills and the ability to see things for what they really are. I can extrapolate from past experiences to predict the outcome of a situation before it happens and very quickly analyze a person's personality and agenda. On occasion I've even been privy to information and future events not conveyed to me directly (or indirectly). I refuse to claim this as anything more than an occasional lucky guess but they were some damn good guesses. These things have allowed me to easily bypass obstacles that seem to impact everyone else around me; sometimes with no prior knowledge of the problem ahead and only logic and creativity to guide me. I'm far from perfect but with the exception of L.S. I've never encountered a problem that I couldn't solve with these abilities. Somehow, I'm slowly breaking out of the restrictions that love-shyness places over me only to find out that the problem is not with us but is actually systemic in nature.

I believe that people with love-shyness are genetically programmed to be less aggressive with regard to mating. Similar to prey animals in the wild; we are not equipped to 'hunt', thus we must be 'hunted' in order to effectively interact with the opposite gender. Because of our superior strength, males are seen as the hunters of our species. In our society, a woman pursuing a man is synonymous with a zebra chasing down and killing a lion. In the proper circumstances, such a thing could actually happen but it is not the usual occurrence. I don't consider what we are experiencing to be a disorder but more like a variation of gender orientations. Unfortunately the rest of the world sees fit to exclude us from their sand box because of our deviation from what THEY consider normal.

While I do sympathize with any woman claiming to be affected by L.S. I'm not quite convinced that they experience it the same way men do; as women currently hold all the cards with regard to mating/courtship.

The problem is; our culture has conditioned women to be passive and/or evasive. In the past, women had lesser rights (education, authority, voting, etc.) so they had little choice but to avoid threatening males and instead accept a guardian type suitor in order to survive and not be picky. Now, we have women who are doctors, lawyers CEOs and other big wigs. We had two women run for President of the the United States in 2008. The positions males had as 'bread winner' and 'head of household' are now obsolete. As a result, women of higher socioeconomic standing are out of reach for many men due to status differences stemming from materialism. Women now have equality but are still expecting chivalry, limiting the number of men who are able (or willing) to meet their excessive standards. They ask for male dominance and leadership but won't make room for it as it conflicts with their agenda. If you are wealthy, they'll gravitate to your money and the perceived power that money generates, then cheat on you if you're ugly or divorce you and take half your shit. If you happen to be male model material, they'll use you like a piece of meat then throw you away if your looks fade, if they find someone better or when they decide you can no longer 'afford' them. Is this every woman? Nope... Is this the usual order of things? You'd better believe it.

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The times they are a changing. That much is clear. But as it always does, I believe the world will sort itself out. There are bad people of every size, shape, color, and gender. I think the cutthroat mentality is something born of capitalism not feminism. And just as I think it's unfair to group men all in one basket, it's unfair to group women all in one basket.

We could look at jersey shore, the real world, the bachelor, survivor, or basically any "reality" tv show, and see men behaving in that classic narcissistic way, just the same as women. I don't think any gender has it more figured out than the other. The first 1900 years weren't exactly smooth sailing without women in power. Slavery, wars, the laundry list of problems. It's our own fault feminism even has to exist.

And frankly I don't think very many women are feminists. I've never come across one who would refer to themselves as a womyn. They go about their own business and I highly doubt they realize the "power" they possess.

Atheists for example. I think it's safe to say that most of them are not bothered by "In God We Trust" or "One nation under God." There's just the select few who are looking for money, or attention, or just have too much time on their hands, and decide to make a federal case out of it. So a woman who when asked if she is a feminist replies "yes" is in all likelihood not the extremist that this forum seems to make her out to be. She probably just wonders why women make less, why they got the vote so late, among other obvious things.


Kinda lost my train of thought here... got tired all of sudden so if it seems to be missing a, what's the word idk... point where it all comes together, that'd be why. Probably also why I can't think of that word :lol:

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You are correct Mrping,

This IS a capitalism issue and not feminism at work. I personally think equality for both genders is great, as it contributes to the balanced perspective needed for a country to thrive. But it needs to all the way. Right now we are economically equal but our gender roles do not reflect equal responsibility in terms of how much work each person needs to do to form and/or maintain a relationship.

Examples:
- In dating, men are forced into taking the lead and work hard to impress women. We are expected to pay for the date but are scorned if we ever make the mistake of expecting affection or sex. Taking makeup/clothes out of the equation, what woman have you ever met that works hard to impress a potential male partner?
- Society constantly tells us that men are financially responsible for relationships. This only leads to a bunch of broke guys who spent all their money chasing women, hitting on women who saved their money or spent it on themselves. The women are then perceived as higher quality because they (and their men) spent so much money on them. Then they have the option and often the inclination to 'upgrade' to a 'better' more handsome and wealthy man. This is one of the underlying reasons why divorce is so popular.
- Women control sex. Society says men have to chase women, so many women play this angle and use the offer of sex to get what they want. When they do get what they want, they no longer have to hold up their end of the deal since men have nothing left to bargain with.
- We (men) have no paternal rights; women choose whether to give birth, abort, adopt or withhold children from us. Men have no say in the matter.

As much as I despise this state of affairs, you can't really blame the women; as this is their programming. Our system of government and the media causes these problems; clinging to tradition while upping the ante to make guys spend more money to impress women. The fact that many people cannot cipher though all the 'programming' that's being done causes them to stand in line and take all the B.S. that they are given.

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Feminism is a bastard child of capitalism. The robber barons could not stand it that half the population was staying home being homemakers and childcare providers instead of drudging away making them money... so when feminism started in earnest they encouraged it and financed it. They knew that when feminism succeeded, it would double the labor supply without a corresponding doubling of the job market which would effectively drive down the cost of labor, ie the real wages of the laborer. And the 99% have been paying for it ever since.

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Feminism is a bastard child of capitalism. The robber barons could not stand it that half the population was staying home being homemakers and childcare providers instead of drudging away making them money... so when feminism started in earnest they encouraged it and financed it. They knew that when feminism succeeded, it would double the labor supply without a corresponding doubling of the job market which would effectively drive down the cost of labor, ie the real wages of the laborer. And the 99% have been paying for it ever since.


The reds were also big on feminism. Capitialism and Communism are two sides of the same globalist coin.

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Both are good points guys,

I won't go all conspiracy theory on you but I think it all started out as an attempt to level the playing field and increase the work force around the time of World war II. If you think about it, our (The U.S.) plan was pretty simple.

Men; You're all drafted... Come join the Army and go save the world from the 'blood thirsty fascist war machine' and the 'poison fist of the pacific rim'!!! Come on now, don't be shy! There's evil to destroy, harbors to avenge and atrocities to stop! Let's move out!!!

Women; You don't know how to fight... soooo... Come work in our factories and build things to help our guys save the world and blow up the 'axis of evil'. Then we'll sell the rest to western Europe to help them not get their asses kicked!!! That's right! You CAN do you your part!!!

Ok team! let's get out there, save the world, make some money while we're at it and get out of the Great Depression!!! (pats everyone on the butt including the ladies because sexual harassment won't be invented for another 20-30 years...)

...And the war was won. Fortunately, peace can lead to prosperity. Unfortunately, prosperity can lead to greed and corruption. And what do people with money like to do more than anything? Make more money$$$.

This is where Loveablenerd's post comes in to effect.

For every woman who gets her bachelors/masters degree and for every medical, government or technical job they take, that's one less man with that kind of job. Add in the fact that it's been statistically proven that your looks can play a part in the hiring process, and you have a bunch of attractive female managers/government reps and a bunch of 'ugly' unemployed/underemployed males. Then the women get upset when all their potential suitors are squeamish about paying for the date. Like "Why the hell am I paying for your lunch!? You make more money than I do!!!"

The same drive to crush evil and make the world a safer, better place has given rise to a new and improved evil and is now the very cause of the problems we face today. Ironic huh?

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its depressing. men are like cars these days, selected for superficial attributes, a commodity. theres no subjective, unique, person-specific, undefineable love anymore. if man x is the same in looks and sociability as man y but makes $10 a year more, they may as well go for man x. they view the value of men purely on what they can do for them. what money they can give them, what genes they can give their kids, what social status. its just business to them. its kinda ironic, that concepts of soulmates have stayed whilst completely losing their meaning. it used to imply someone you connected to deeply as a person. now, its the highest value product you are capable of acquiring.

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