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PostPosted: 25 Sep 2010, 02:38 
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I keep telling myself that I've been ignored by females my entire life. This is nuts. In real life I've never seen a girl check me out, or display interest in me whatsoever, or even come and talk with me in a friendly way. Never happened, not even close. That fucking sucks. If this actually happened to me one day I would be extremely shocked like there's no tomorrow. When you've been overlooked your entire life you turn invisible to the opposite sex. Which is what happened to me and I suspect many other love-shys. When you've been treated like you don't exist for your whole life, you become absolutely invisible. And the only way out is to become assertive. But can you break out of that fear. The shy nice guy is screwed.

IMO girls who want a guy to make the first move even if he is extremely shy and just can't do it because of fear or just no knowledge of how to (and instead of taking matters into their own hands they let the opportunity die) and don't believe in making it themselves are the lowest of the low in my book.

"Why can't I meet a nice well behaved guy"....here's a tip, stop ignoring us.

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I feel like I've been ignored ever since I put on weight. When I was skinny, I had hot chicks checking me out...even if I didn't have the guts to go through with it.

Now I don't even have fat chicks checking me out. I am completely invisible to girls, other than as a friend.

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Other than the occassional one wanting to be my friend, I am totally invisible to girls. I just don't show up on their radar.

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I've had girls show interest in me before. But it's been awhile. Trying to get more in shape and see if that changes somehow.


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Although I 'm atleast in good shape, girls don't recognize me either. I feel like a ghost.


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Women never look at me once let alone twice. It's like they can sense that I'm not worth looking at. I think I have always had a weak presence, which women ignore. A more powerful man would likely get far more attention.

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I'm like a stealth bomber. I go around unnoticed.


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Man you must spend a lot of time staring at the floor and looking morose to have never been seen by any woman.
Yep I am LS but I have been approached by woman many times. Unfortunately I had panic reactions and have frozen up (near catatonic) and even flat out rejected.
The concept of LoveShy being a one size fits all singular unified diagnosis has just got to be a stretch. LoveShy is the result of one of several Personality Disorders. For me it is Avoidant Personality Disorder for others something else. I am even counterphobic, I have to talk to people at work.. all day long. My work is to socialize all day long and get people to do something by organizing projects for them to do, Facilitator.
But the ultimate in intimacy still alludes me so I know I am at fault and do exhibit some counterphobic tendencies. Thus I know it has to be resolvable.
Do you always look at ideal women and never at the Plain Jane/Homely women in a room, look around at some BBW's. Pilinski and other sources recommend learning to make eye contact with woman maybe try it out on some non-ideal non-model women for practice, heck try it out on old lady/motherly types first. Who knows maybe one of them will take you home and give you a sympathy fuck. At the least if you stop staring at the floor you might find there is some hope of resolving LS however long it might take.

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I've been ignored by, and invisible to, the opposite sex my entire life. Hell, even ghosts have people interested in them.

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2. Start Making Eye Contact With Women. And I mean the GOOD kind where you look away about 20% of the time so as not to slip into a ‘psycho leer’. I talk about this extensively throughout my books and audios so I won’t get into the whole thing here, but suffice to say that a shifty-eyed presentation of yourself is always a bad deal. People are made uncomfortable in the presence of someone who won’t look them in the eye. They begin to wonder why you seem to be acting ashamed or guilty. What are you hiding? To varying degrees women will especially get creeped out by this A+ connection killer.

Poor eye contact creates a vibe that’s just the opposite of charismatic – which is the ability to make people feel good about themselves. Shifty eye contact is anti-charismatic because it forces people to identify with your discomfort instead, and they don’t like that! They don’t want to hang around with people who give them ‘bad vibes’ — for whatever reason — and would just as soon avoid you altogether.

Try it out on a Friendzoned female buddy or two amazing that they seem to stop treating you like you are gay when you look into their eyes a bit more.

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Man you must spend a lot of time staring at the floor and looking morose to have never been seen by any woman.
Yep I am LS but I have been approached by woman many times. Unfortunately I had panic reactions and have frozen up (near catatonic) and even flat out rejected.
The concept of LoveShy being a one size fits all singular unified diagnosis has just got to be a stretch. LoveShy is the result of one of several Personality Disorders. For me it is Avoidant Personality Disorder for others something else. I am even counterphobic, I have to talk to people at work.. all day long. My work is to socialize all day long and get people to do something by organizing projects for them to do, Facilitator.
But the ultimate in intimacy still alludes me so I know I am at fault and do exhibit some counterphobic tendencies. Thus I know it has to be resolvable.
Do you always look at ideal women and never at the Plain Jane/Homely women in a room, look around at some BBW's. Pilinski and other sources recommend learning to make eye contact with woman maybe try it out on some non-ideal non-model women for practice, heck try it out on old lady/motherly types first. Who knows maybe one of them will take you home and give you a sympathy fuck. At the least if you stop staring at the floor you might find there is some hope of resolving LS however long it might take.



Lucky you, I am 42, and no woman has ever shown any interest in me at all, not even the fat and ugly ones.

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Lucky you, I am 42, and no woman has ever shown any interest in me at all, not even the fat and ugly ones.


Perhaps I am but only because I learned to stop staring at the floor and looking at women as completely atrocious. The eyes and your body language send woman a message they get without even consciously being aware of it. That message is that they should not look at you because you are weird. I know this because I too have done the very same thing. Just keep trying perhaps try going straight into the friendzone only now when you do that don't have any expectation of going from friend to lover.

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Maybe HaventDoneThat AND everyone else is right... I've always felt ignored too, but it's possible that I've just told myself that I've been ignored, because it's easier than admitting that when women do talk to me, I'm the one that flakes out or fails to show interest.

Eye contact is easier said than done, though. I have a natural tendency to avert my eyes that's almost impossible to counteract.

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I am fairly certain that I used to be ignored but since being the freaking 26 year old undergraduate (everyone esle is 19-21), I have the younger end of the spectrum showing interest. It just baffles me. I knew I couldn't let them know. They generally figured it out by my extra knowledge of subjects in the classrom and sort of go their own way, not surprising. I did notice the guys in chemistry seemed dissapointed when I asked them about ping pong and never actually came. I was shocked that they wanted to talk to me even after I mangle my words so bad.


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I've only had a few girls notice me. I remember this cute girl in my HS chemistry class suddenly expressing interest in me, trying to chat with me out of the blue and such. She ended the conversation with, "if you want to talk to me, I'm available" <3

Looking back I feel like I blew an opportunity. I was too stupid to realize back then :facepalm:

Aside that, I feel mostly overlooked, and/or that I'm too stupid to read body language. =/

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