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So who is going to post a comment in the blog to set this straight? Should I?

I remember that blog. He wrote well of the MRAs and Devlin. Though its not the article I remember, a quick search let this out:

http://biblicalmanhood.blogspot.com/200 ... essay.html

I doubt theres any setting them straight. They are aware of the facts.

Hmm, he seems to be making the argument that since incels can learn game, or go to a prostitute, etc. then true incels don't exist. As novaseeker already pointed out in the comments section, he's failing to factor in the costs of incel's "choices," which are too high in many cases, hence why they're incel. He also fails to factor in things like asperger's syndrome that may make a man nearly incapable of interesting a woman sexually.

I think the problem is more one of difficulty than anything else. Sure, an incel could get into a relationship - if they spent their entire waking hours for months on end trying, and facing utter humiliation many times over in the process. Problem is, most people don't have that much time on their hands. The fact is, things are just too costly for incels, while non-cels have a much easier time moving in and out of relationships.

No offense to Anakin, he's a great MRA (and UWT is more of a "dickhead" than he could ever be), but sometimes his religion causes him to make extremely unrealistic recommendations. He's of the camp that believes celibate people should not have sex before marriage, because it's god's will, ignoring various practical and emotional reasons why that's not such a good idea. Of course, today's culture has gone too far off in the other direction, but this is still a limited viewpoint to have.

Dani said...

As for the woman Amir describes, what sane man would want to be married to a reformed nympho? She's damaged goods and well past her prime.

If a Christian she is a forgiven sinner who has been washed clean through the blood of Christ.
Yes, she will probably have a lot of emotional, spiritual (and perhaps physical) baggage as result of her sinful past - those may be real obstacles to her future marriage prospects. But she is not damaged goods in Christ eyes. She is a new creation - just like the 'sane man' who might consider being married to her.

Well then, Christ should marry her and leave the rest of us out of it.

UrbanWhiteTrash wrote:http://biblicalmanhood.blogspot.com/2009/10/there-is-no-such-thing-as-incel.html

There are plenty of people who deny the holocaust ever happened as well. Why should they not deny that there are no such things as incel people?


A high percentage of people find it hard to imagine themselves with a different mindset with different capabilities. They feel that if they can get sex with no problem than everybody else can.

There are probably some people who believe physically handycapped kids or retarded kids might just be faking it.

There were people who thought people with asthma were fakes before it was determined to be a medical condition.


A classic goof line I hear a lot of people say, "Why did that person do that stupid thing. If I was that person, I would not have done that".

That line is such bullshit. If you were that person, you would have done the same thing because you were that person and would have had their same DNA and life experiences.

Just a rant.

OverlyAnxious wrote:Hmm, he seems to be making the argument that since incels can learn game, or go to a prostitute, etc. then true incels don't exist. As novaseeker already pointed out in the comments section, he's failing to factor in the costs of incel's "choices," which are too high in many cases, hence why they're incel. He also fails to factor in things like asperger's syndrome that may make a man nearly incapable of interesting a woman sexually.

I think the problem is more one of difficulty than anything else. Sure, an incel could get into a relationship - if they spent their entire waking hours for months on end trying, and facing utter humiliation many times over in the process. Problem is, most people don't have that much time on their hands. The fact is, things are just too costly for incels, while non-cels have a much easier time moving in and out of relationships.

No offense to Anakin, he's a great MRA (and UWT is more of a "dickhead" than he could ever be), but sometimes his religion causes him to make extremely unrealistic recommendations. He's of the camp that believes celibate people should not have sex before marriage, because it's god's will, ignoring various practical and emotional reasons why that's not such a good idea. Of course, today's culture has gone too far off in the other direction, but this is still a limited viewpoint to have.

Good post OA, and even though I am a Catholic (although I am not overly religious), I have to strongly disagree with Anakin's assertion that "true incels don't exist", what a load of bullshit!!

I would have got married at 18, if I met the right girl, but getting married/or into a relationship is a bit hard when women are always telling me to fuck off, and if "true incels" don't exist, then how do explain both this site and the incel board??

And Anakin completely lost me when he mentioned that men learn "PUA/Seduction game" as a solution to incel, more bullshit becaue PUA is a fraud and scam, and only works for good looking men who have already been successful with women before, not some poor ugly/average looking incel who has had no luck with women. And if Anakin is advocating celibacy before marriage, then he is contradcting himself, because PUA is all about seducing and fucking women as quickly as possible, so that you can move on to the next slut to do the same thing.

In an ideal world, I think most of us here would have loved to have met a decent woman early in our lives, who we could settle down with, the problem is truly decent women are becoming an endangered species, and even the so called "easy sluts" are only interested in 20% of the men, so to suggest that "true incels don't exist" is absolute rubbish.

There were people who thought people with asthma were fakes before it was determined to be a medical condition.

A classic goof line I hear a lot of people say, "Why did that person do that stupid thing. If I was that person, I would not have done that".

That line is such bullshit. If you were that person, you would have done the same thing because you were that person and would have had their same DNA and life experiences.

+1

In an ideal world, I think most of us here would have loved to have met a decent woman early in our lives, who we could settle down with, the problem is truly decent women are becoming an endangered species, and even the so called "easy sluts" are only interested in 20% of the men

Indeed... "Easy" sluts are only "easy" for a minority of men. Something our culture tends to ignore.

Old thread i know but seems jesus-man tracked back the link.

http://biblicalmanhood.blogspot.com/201 ... n-sex.html

The forum gets a mention in third paragraph

how delicous.

UrbanWhiteTrash wrote:http://biblicalmanhood.blogspot.com/2009/10/there-is-no-such-thing-as-incel.html

The guy's an idiot. But what this illustrates is that anyone who reads this love-shy board for awhile, and is actually facing these issues, is 100 times more educated than anyone else, including so-called professional counselors and psychologists. We have already seen the incorrect arguments and assumptions, and understand the core issues, even though it appears that people on this board disagree strongly on many issues.

Not to make a big deal out of this, but his argument that anyone can go to Nevada and hire a prostitute is ridiculous and wrong in many ways, as we have discussed many times. Many men do not consider prostitution to be a resolution of incel; the level of service in Nevada is terrible according to all reports; some men may not have the money or cannot justify the expense compared to other financial needs; and for some love-shys (including myself), the idea of going to a prostitute triggers off the same or worse level of anxiety as attempting to start a relationship with a normal woman. So this guy basically doesn't even have an understanding of the issues.

OverlyAnxious wrote:Hmm, he seems to be making the argument that since incels can learn game, or go to a prostitute, etc. then true incels don't exist. As novaseeker already pointed out in the comments section, he's failing to factor in the costs of incel's "choices," which are too high in many cases, hence why they're incel. He also fails to factor in things like asperger's syndrome that may make a man nearly incapable of interesting a woman sexually.

I think the problem is more one of difficulty than anything else. Sure, an incel could get into a relationship - if they spent their entire waking hours for months on end trying, and facing utter humiliation many times over in the process. Problem is, most people don't have that much time on their hands. The fact is, things are just too costly for incels, while non-cels have a much easier time moving in and out of relationships.

No offense to Anakin, he's a great MRA (and UWT is more of a "dickhead" than he could ever be), but sometimes his religion causes him to make extremely unrealistic recommendations. He's of the camp that believes celibate people should not have sex before marriage, because it's god's will, ignoring various practical and emotional reasons why that's not such a good idea. Of course, today's culture has gone too far off in the other direction, but this is still a limited viewpoint to have.

I think this is a pretty fair evaluation of his post. And as others have said, going to a prostitute is not a solution to incel because incel isn't about going without sex nearly as much as it's about going without a romantic relationship.

As for PUA, you hit the nail on the head. PUA is for guys who already have adequate social skills. It's useless for someone with Aspergers or who is a "male lesbian."

SuckstobeLoveShy wrote:PUA is for guys who already have adequate social skills. It's useless for someone with Aspergers or who is a "male lesbian."

X2. Realizing that I'm not completely in control of my destiny is a depressing thing.

Really, all it would take is girls giving guys like us a chance. That's all it would take.

Oh he nailed the point! Join this bum head or be one of those casualites that society wants to label and wipe out on sight!

http://redstick.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/dr_phil.jpg

I don't want sex from some random person. I want a loving relationship...It seems in today's society men are labeled as these sex hungry freaks that only care about duping women into having sex with them.