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PostPosted: 09 Sep 2010, 12:58 
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Related story about sexual harassment from the other side:
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/1009 ... _us_spears

Comments on TMZ seem to be almost unanimous against the guy, calling him gay, queer, homo, sissy, crazy, etc. The fact he may have actual values, be religious, faithful to his gf, finds trashy and promiscuous girls a turn-off, etc., never enters their minds. A guy turns down sex and his sanity is questioned. If this was a case of a male exposing himself repeatedly to his female assistant, who do you think people would side with?


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You already know what the response would be.


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Desolate Outcast wrote:
Related story about sexual harassment from the other side:
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/1009 ... _us_spears

Comments on TMZ seem to be almost unanimous against the guy, calling him gay, queer, homo, sissy, crazy, etc. The fact he may have actual values, be religious, faithful to his gf, finds trashy and promiscuous girls a turn-off, etc., never enters their minds. A guy turns down sex and his sanity is questioned. If this was a case of a male exposing himself repeatedly to his female assistant, who do you think people would side with?


Quite frankly i dont think too highly of brittney spears, to me dirtball is what i think when i hear that name, there are far better looking celebrities out there who have less notoriety.......

some of the idiotic comments people made on tmz...

"He's clearly lying and gay."

"wft, any straight guy wouldn't say that Britney spears exposing herself in front of them was harassment, He needs to get a life and leave her alone. He is probably just made because she wouldn't give him a raise."


these people must be drinking brake fluid or something...
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A very interesting article which refutes the feminist claim that men have it better:

"Seeing all this, the feminists thought, wow, men dominate everything, so society is set up to favor men. It must be great to be a man.

"The mistake in that way of thinking is to look only at the top. If one were to look downward to the bottom of society instead, one finds mostly men there too. Who’s in prison, all over the world, as criminals or political prisoners? The population on Death Row has never approached 51% female. Who’s homeless? Again, mostly men. Whom does society use for bad or dangerous jobs? US Department of Labor statistics report that 93% of the people killed on the job are men. Likewise, who gets killed in battle? Even in today’s American army, which has made much of integrating the sexes and putting women into combat, the risks aren’t equal. This year we passed the milestone of 3,000 deaths in Iraq, and of those, 2,938 were men, 62 were women....."
http://www.psy.fsu.edu/~baumeistertice/goodaboutmen.htm


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I'd rather be a male who has success with women than a love shy male.

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NineInchNails wrote:
I'd rather be a male who has success with women than a love shy male.

Well hopefully that is the goal we all share here, though with some I suspect they need a few more years. Yup we have to approach, not always but mostly, we have to project an air of confidence, and then we can still be rejected :mrgreen:

But rather than give up we have to move on to the next opportunity and still look cool, not at the floor :lol:

Well other male animals have to do the same or similar, like it or not we have to suck it up or give up.

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Just read the story on Britney. :facepalm:

Granted, if she bent over in front of ME, that would not be harassment. But what is wrong with having values and sticking to them?

Perhaps he doesn't want to see her half naked all the time? Doesn't mean he's gay, just means he has values.

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NineInchNails wrote:
I'd rather be a male who has success with women than a love shy male.


Yeah.

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IS IT BETTER TO BE MALE OR FEMALE?

I'm kind of new to the forum so apologies if this topic has been brought up before. (Sorry this got so long but I have a lot to say on the subject.)

Been growing more and more preoccupied with the love-shy idea that it's simply better to be female than male in almost every way. So much so that I would choose to be female in a heartbeat. This is not to say I'm one of those "women trapped in a man's body" or want a sex change or anything like that. Just that if God let me go back and do everything over again, I would choose to come back as a girl.

I can't see any downside to being female anymore in western society. Women now dominate in schools, occupy over half the jobs, and can still play the traditional roles of wife and mother if they want. They are put on a pedestal by society and treated better in almost every way. The freedoms they take for granted are ones I will never know. For instance: A woman can choose to work or not work; a man has to work. A woman can dress like a woman or like a man; a man has to dress like a man. A woman doing a "man's" job, like computer technician or engineer, is lauded as a pioneer and example of women's progress; a man doing a "woman's" job, like nurse, dancer or model, is ridiculed. A woman under attack is expected to be defended and assisted; a man under attack is expected to "be a man" or to "man up" and not let anyone push him around. If a woman refuses her "responsibilities" of cooking and cleaning in the home, she is liberated and empowered; if a man refuses his "responsibilities" of being the breadwinner, he is a deadbeat. A woman who argues that men have it better is defending her rights; a man who argues that women have it better is a jealous whiner.

Now you would think with all this extra freedom would come extra responsibilities. But women's responsibilities (as caregiver and nurturer) have actually diminished. Yet there has been no corresponding increase in men's freedom at all (except for homosexuals).

At the risk of exaggerating, I believe being born female is like winning the lottery. You get all the special treatment and privileges handed to you, having done nothing to earn it. You are a higher class of human -- regarded as more attractive, more valuable, more deserving of support and compassion than those without breasts. What do you get by being born male? A shorter life expectancy and greater risk of mental illness, suicide, genetic disorders, alcoholism, social isolation, school dropout, incarceration, much longer prison sentences, etc. No wonder parents selecting the sex of their babies now pick female 75% of the time. In this culture, I would absolutely do the same.

Women have problems too but women's problems are seen as crises by society. Just imagine what would happen if all the homeless men you see in big cities were women. Those women would not be homeless for long. There would be an outcry over how society had let them fall through the cracks and massive efforts to get those women off the street. Already, more social programs and shelters exist for women only than for men, even though men probably account for over 90% of the homeless. Similarly, look at all the attention and funding devoted to breast cancer versus prostate cancer. Both kill equal numbers but prostate cancer gets only a fraction of the attention, for no other reason than that all its victims are male. (So, sorry to say this, but as long as most love-shy victims are male, society is really not going to give a crap.)

Now I realize that for a very long time, it was the other way around. Guys had all the rights and freedoms while women could not have a career or even vote. Some feminists would say modern men deserve to suffer for something that happened before they were even born and which they had nothing to do with... just as girls today somehow deserve special treatment because of past injustices which they themselves will never experience. But does this logic make any sense?

All this eats me up inside because I know that with my temperament I would have made a much better woman than a man. My shyness would be perceived as demure and attractive instead of creepy and unconfident. I could show little or no outward interest in the opposite sex without being seen as gay. I could make a small salary and have no car without it reducing my attractiveness one bit. My low self-esteem would elicit compassion instead of revulsion. I could show more interest in art, culture and psychology than in beer, sports and monster truck rallies without my sexuality being questioned. As a virgin, I'd be seen as pure instead of a loser. Even without approaching anyone, I would get lots of practice at social skills because they would approach me. In short, my life would have been a success instead of a failure.

If any girl should read this and disagree, I'd like to say just be grateful you won the lottery when you were born. Be thankful you dodged a bullet. It could've been so much worse, you really have no idea. I would give anything to be you.



It depends.

I say sexy, hot woman is probably the most desired human being. It can have consequences though. A sexy woman still have to play her cards right to succeed.

If you look back in high school at all the hot women who fell in love early on if life, if they chose the wrong guy or made the wrong decisions, they have a good chance of messing up.

Plenty of women will have kids too early or grow up too early. Fast foward 10 years later, same sexy woman may no longer be hot or desirable and will have fallen down the ladder a lot. They could easily be a 100 pounds heavier or look like they are 40 at 28 due to stress. I saw a lot of this at my 10 year reunion.


I would think that an average looking woman has it easier than an average looking guy. A guy will always have to prove themselves (unless they are born rich). An average woman has options that a normal guy don't.

But the uglier a woman is the worse off they are.

I think an ugly guy has it better than an ugly women, but it depends more on the guys attitude.

Guys are judged more about performance than looks. If an ugly guy is extremely talented, they are adored and even usually end up with a hot chick (depending on their financial status).

Talented ugly women don't still seem to be as celebrated as much as an untalented gorgeous woman. You don't always see a talented ugly woman with a nice husband women woo over like you would a pretty talented woman who seems to have it all.


Looks do play a role on a guys side but it isn't as competive as the womans side.


Also,

I do see homeless women in the streets at time but none of them are no where close to a model or even an average woman's looks. They seem to have it about as hard as the guys out there getting money and what not (and they probably do from having a lower threshold of pain due to harsh conditions of being homeless).

Pretty homeless women really don't seem to exist though (if they do, they won't be homeless for long).


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Homeless women? Watch the Pretty Woman movie.

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Male: its a much tougher way of life at sake of todays femenist way of life.

Its a challange but a lonley one if you are not the "Sexually Experienced Asshole" Women like


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I sincerely believe that it's better to be female. Let's say a man and a woman go out. Nine times out of ten who gets the better end of that deal? Women - they get taken out, they get "wined and dined" and/or entertained, it probably costs them nothing but an hour or two of their time and all they have to do is show up. then, they're the ones that get to say "yes" or "no" to going out again. It seems to me that women have nothing to invest and nothing to lose according to the popular social paradigm. What's more, they have no risk of failure, no risk of rejection and no risk of going home feeling as though they're either an inch tall or that they've screwed up another potential relationship because they said/did/expressed something incorrectly.


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I sincerely believe that it's better to be female. Let's say a man and a woman go out. Nine times out of ten who gets the better end of that deal? Women - they get taken out, they get "wined and dined" and/or entertained, it probably costs them nothing but an hour or two of their time and all they have to do is show up. then, they're the ones that get to say "yes" or "no" to going out again. It seems to me that women have nothing to invest and nothing to lose according to the popular social paradigm. What's more, they have no risk of failure, no risk of rejection and no risk of going home feeling as though they're either an inch tall or that they've screwed up another potential relationship because they said/did/expressed something incorrectly.

You haven't seen my dates then.


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I sincerely believe that it's better to be female. Let's say a man and a woman go out. Nine times out of ten who gets the better end of that deal? Women - they get taken out, they get "wined and dined" and/or entertained, it probably costs them nothing but an hour or two of their time and all they have to do is show up. then, they're the ones that get to say "yes" or "no" to going out again. It seems to me that women have nothing to invest and nothing to lose according to the popular social paradigm. What's more, they have no risk of failure, no risk of rejection and no risk of going home feeling as though they're either an inch tall or that they've screwed up another potential relationship because they said/did/expressed something incorrectly.

Yep it is like a job interview for the man, and he has everything to lose because getting a damn date is so hard. You are just one of many guys the girl (corporation) is interviewing.


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