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I think you guys are making this a much bigger deal than it really is. I don’t see anything wrong with saucy books written for house fraus. It provides a form of escapism that entertains while at the same time does so in a safe and confined way. It’s not any different than say, playing a violent videogame or watching explicit erotic cinema. The only sad thing to me about this fad is these women are living vicariously through a series of erotic literature, instead of actually talking to their partners about their thoughts and desires. Other than that, I don’t see how this is destroying civilization.


BDSM must be banned,just like child porn since it is a deviant and unhealthy form of sex.For those who are not currently sexually aroused,please think about this:

You want to have sex with your girlfriend.

What do you want?
1.Some cuddling and then have sex naturally.
2.Tie her up(or let her tie you up) and then "rape" her.(Only one of the slightest forms of BDSM.You know,there are many far worse and more disgusting types of BDSM.)

Which is more natural??What do you want?Should both you and your girlfriend be happy,or.....should one of you suffer?Even if she wants to suffer and feels aroused by this,is it what she should want?It is not healthy.....

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18 "Come now, and let us reason together," Says the LORD, "Though your sins are as scarlet, They will be as white as snow; Though they are red like crimson, They will be like wool.
19 "If you consent and obey, You will eat the best of the land;
20 "But if you refuse and rebel, You will be devoured by the sword." Truly, the mouth of the LORD has spoken.


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17 “Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill.
18 For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished.
19 Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.



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Interesting websites:
On Torah:
http://www.torahofmessiah.com
http://www.eliyah.com/
On Paul of Tarsus who was NOT an apostle and taught against Torah:
http://www.truthseekers.co.za/
http://www.wardsoft.net/web
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Torah is still in force.
Yeshua is the Messiah because he perfectly practices the Torah (Genesis to Deuteronomy).
Yeshua's disciples in Jerusalem, led by James, Peter and John, also practice the Torah.
Why not start from keeping the Sabbath?
It is good religiously. It is also good for your secular life.
"Christmas" is actually paganmas that has nothing to do with Yeshua who Greco-Roman paganizers renamed Jesus.
"Easter" is a pagan festival. Why keep celebrating them?


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That's the funniest thing you've ever said

It's not funny.I still struggle with this kind of immoral and unhealthy things.....Believe me,it is unhealthy.

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18 "Come now, and let us reason together," Says the LORD, "Though your sins are as scarlet, They will be as white as snow; Though they are red like crimson, They will be like wool.
19 "If you consent and obey, You will eat the best of the land;
20 "But if you refuse and rebel, You will be devoured by the sword." Truly, the mouth of the LORD has spoken.


Mat 5:17-19

17 “Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill.
18 For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished.
19 Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.



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Interesting websites:
On Torah:
http://www.torahofmessiah.com
http://www.eliyah.com/
On Paul of Tarsus who was NOT an apostle and taught against Torah:
http://www.truthseekers.co.za/
http://www.wardsoft.net/web
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Torah is still in force.
Yeshua is the Messiah because he perfectly practices the Torah (Genesis to Deuteronomy).
Yeshua's disciples in Jerusalem, led by James, Peter and John, also practice the Torah.
Why not start from keeping the Sabbath?
It is good religiously. It is also good for your secular life.
"Christmas" is actually paganmas that has nothing to do with Yeshua who Greco-Roman paganizers renamed Jesus.
"Easter" is a pagan festival. Why keep celebrating them?


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That's the funniest thing you've ever said

It's not funny.I still struggle with this kind of immoral and unhealthy things.....Believe me,it is unhealthy.


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What do you want?
1.Some cuddling and then have sex naturally.
2.Tie her up(or let her tie you up) and then "rape" her.(Only one of the slightest forms of BDSM.You know,there are many far worse and more disgusting types of BDSM.)

Which is more natural??What do you want?Should both you and your girlfriend be happy,or.....should one of you suffer?Even if she wants to suffer and feels aroused by this,is it what she should want?It is not healthy.....
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If you’re not able to distinguish between sexual intercourse, and sexual intercourse in the context of a mutually agreed upon roleplay with a clearly defined safe-word, then please abstain from either activity.

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There's nothing wrong with a little kinky sex if both people like it. I like to be tied up sometimes. What's the problem?


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Laplacian wrote:
Pavel_Tomarov wrote:
What do you want?
1.Some cuddling and then have sex naturally.
2.Tie her up(or let her tie you up) and then "rape" her.(Only one of the slightest forms of BDSM.You know,there are many far worse and more disgusting types of BDSM.)

Which is more natural??What do you want?Should both you and your girlfriend be happy,or.....should one of you suffer?Even if she wants to suffer and feels aroused by this,is it what she should want?It is not healthy.....
Dear Love-shy community,

If you’re not able to distinguish between sexual intercourse, and sexual intercourse in the context of a mutually agreed upon roleplay with a clearly defined safe-word, then please abstain from either activity.

Best regards,
-Laplacian

Does that mean you support things like cannibalism as long as they're consensual?


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There's nothing wrong with a little kinky sex if both people like it. I like to be tied up sometimes. What's the problem?
There's... erm, nothing... wrong with it as long as you do that at home and don't rub it in my face.

However, I do personally believe that it's absolutely filthy, disgusting and abhorrent. At least I still have the right to say this in the open, I'm afraid I can lose it in the future. People used to can openly say they don't approve of homosexuality itself, now they're silenced and labelled "homophobes"... Not that I hate gays or something, but I believe people should be entitled to their own opinion, even if it's politically incorrect.

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I think you guys are making this a much bigger deal than it really is. I don’t see anything wrong with saucy books written for house fraus. It provides a form of escapism that entertains while at the same time does so in a safe and confined way. It’s not any different than say, playing a violent videogame or watching explicit erotic cinema. The only sad thing to me about this fad is these women are living vicariously through a series of erotic literature, instead of actually talking to their partners about their thoughts and desires. Other than that, I don’t see how this is destroying civilization.
Dude, tell me how come tons of women are now rushing to sex shops to pick up new toys. It MUST have influenced them largely. They're itching to give in to their insatiable lust and see their lewd fantasies come to life. That awful book is only encouraging them to do so. All forms of deviation are now seen as perfectly normal and somewhat rewarding...

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Okay, can any one of you who don't approve of BDSM, or any other sexual fetish, explain why. Without using the word 'disgusting' or any other subjective term?

It's not really my cup of tea, but as long as both parties are okay with it, they're not harming anyone else, so what's the problem?

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What's so wrong with the word "disgusting" and substitute terms? It's the most suitable word to express my disapproval.

I already wrote I could even force myself to tolerate it, but I just don't want them to rub it in my face. Also, it bugs me that it's increasingly considered normal among many people, because it's still a deviation in the end...

Simply put, it's just yet another rich people's craze who have no idea what they could do to please themselves. Have a look at a lot of third-world countries, people out there couldn't even fathom such a deviation because they're dead set on eking out a living.

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Okay, can any one of you who don't approve of BDSM, or any other sexual fetish, explain why. Without using the word 'disgusting' or any other subjective term?

It's not really my cup of tea, but as long as both parties are okay with it, they're not harming anyone else, so what's the problem?

I'll bite. I'm not against BDSM at all, but I can see a case against it, because in a way it legitimizes potentially destructive behaviors.

Being encouraged to develop your dominance, submission or sadism in a safe environment sounds a bit like being encouraged to practice other negative behaviors like manipulativeness, deceptiveness or self-hatred in a safe environment. It's been proven that having a "healthy" outlet for one's harmful impulses (such as punching stuff when you're angry) does nothing but increase them over time, despite the temporary relief. I also think the same argument could be made against violent movies and videogames depending on the degree to which they cause this. Even as a game developer, I wouldn't mind that much if violent videogames were to be banned - though in principle, I would be against the ban, because I've enjoyed many such games.

Anyway, that's just one possible argument.

(On the subject of violent videogames, I actually think combat is an awfully overused game mechanic that should be done without more often. I don't deny that developers keep coming up with good combat ideas and good games based on them, but you have to admit such games don't really bring that much to the plate anymore in terms of design possibilities and new genres. Some of the most creative games of the past years have been notable for having little to no combat - Fez, Limbo, Portal, etc. Sorry for the derail but I couldn't hold it in.)


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That kind of book aren't literature, they are just porn for women.

And this thing with Dominance and why women are so found of it. If you are bound and helpless, you are released from responsibility, you are not doing anything dirty, dirty things are done to you and you can let go of the shame.
Tying someone is about utmost trust, and tying a man and giving it to him could be a gift. The knots are symbolic, it frees him of having to be the active part. (wouldn't that be just perfect for a loveshy man? )

But foremost this is a spice, either in fantasies or in a relationship where things has become a habit.

The pain part I don't understand myself, but what makes you hot is created in childhood experiences and all people aren't wired in the same way in that regard.

I believe many women have sexual issues, having trouble dealing with their sexuality. And nowadays it is more important than ever to "be right" do the right thing so many women act as they believe they shall act.

Very few people at all are that independent, and free of sexual and emotional hang ups that they follow an inner guidance in search for love. That goes for both male and female

Love- shyness is one way of being messed up, there are others different ways. But we are all messed up.

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As a man caught up in extreme porn,I have to say BDSM is unhealthy and should be banned,especially cannibalism,necrophilia and these kind of things are very harmful indeed.When one is into some "slight" BDSM,he/she might find some more extreme BDSM arousing and it might go worse over time.It is not only a fantasy,it might change one's attitude about the opposite gender.

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18 "Come now, and let us reason together," Says the LORD, "Though your sins are as scarlet, They will be as white as snow; Though they are red like crimson, They will be like wool.
19 "If you consent and obey, You will eat the best of the land;
20 "But if you refuse and rebel, You will be devoured by the sword." Truly, the mouth of the LORD has spoken.


Mat 5:17-19

17 “Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill.
18 For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished.
19 Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.



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Interesting websites:
On Torah:
http://www.torahofmessiah.com
http://www.eliyah.com/
On Paul of Tarsus who was NOT an apostle and taught against Torah:
http://www.truthseekers.co.za/
http://www.wardsoft.net/web
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Laplacian wrote:
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Other than that, I don’t see how this is destroying civilization.
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People are saying that somehow a bestselling erotic book containing BDSM is somehow emblematic of western culture sinking to a pathetic low, and that this is evidence that everyone associated with these books are deviants engaging in lewd behavior on a regular basis. I don’t agree with this. To me, it’s no worse than comic books or videogames. It’s just a book. A book isn’t a good or bad thing, and it has no intrinsic moral value, and it certainly doesn’t reflect on the people reading them.

Okay, I get you. I thought you were in some way referring to my quote in where literature has fallen from a once-great height and this book merely stirred the cesspool from within. Yes, I agree with you that not "eveyone associated with these books are deviants engaging in lewd behavior on a regular basis". Certainly not. In fact, there maybe good reason to think the opposite with some of the readers. Many of the readers are in fact older women, women whose sexual fantasies were never aroused in the course of their marriage; this book sparks within something missed, or something similiarly missed.

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As a man caught up in extreme porn,I have to say BDSM is unhealthy and should be banned,especially cannibalism,necrophilia and these kind of things are very harmful indeed.When one is into some "slight" BDSM,he/she might find some more extreme BDSM arousing and it might go worse over time.It is not only a fantasy,it might change one's attitude about the opposite gender.


I believe that is what they say about porn in general, that the mind craves more and more extreme stuff to get turned on

Many men get impotent with real women from watching to much porn. I think this is the bigger issue. when you start to masturbate as comfort instead of just relieving tension, you go into a vicious circle of increased emotional pain, and the more pain the more extreme porn.

The pain is the problem

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