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http://www.lulu.com/shop/manhood101-com/the-principles-of-social-competence/hardcover/product-20038920.html

Written by a guy who runs a web-based community I used to once be a part of.

And by the way, I know that there are many members of this forum who would find his community and the courses he runs very useful as a side to posting on this forum.

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But more importantly, it will show you what you can do about it by introducing you to the principles of social interaction.


So in other words....it's PUA?

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But more importantly, it will show you what you can do about it by introducing you to the principles of social interaction.


So in other words....it's PUA?


No dude, it exposes the seduction community scams while revolutionizing your approach to the opposite sex!

All for the low low price of....

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... aw shit.


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Coby wrote:
http://www.lulu.com/shop/manhood101-com/the-principles-of-social-competence/hardcover/product-20038920.html

Written by a guy who runs a web-based community I used to once be a part of.

And by the way, I know that there are many members of this forum who would find his community and the courses he runs very useful as a side to posting on this forum.


I just read the brief preview section, and there was some good stuff there, particulalry about feminism and the whole "pop positivity" industry eg. Dr Phil, Oprah, Mystery etc.

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If you go onto his website you can download this in e-book format for no cost. I'm sure he'd be happy if you did.

Here is the link -> http://manhood101.com/ebook.html

When I was an active member of his forum, I posted about my experiences and the "wash-up" of my PUA bootcamp where I payed $3000.00 and got little to no success. The guy who runs it posted back and picked all the PUA advice I was given apart, and he was very sympathetic to what happened to me.

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Just want to point out that this book is written by a mega-asshole, probably the worst that I have seen in the entire PUA or MGTOW world. This isn't obvious from the book itself, but it is from his forum. While some PUAs may be worth listening to, I urge you not to buy this asshole's book.

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Yes, i saw the comments he made towards you on his forum, fschmidt. Whilst i will neither agree or disagree with what he said about your posts, i do believe his free e-book can be a valuable tool and source of reference for guys on this forum.

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Just want to point out that this book is written by a mega-asshole, probably the worst that I have seen in the entire PUA or MGTOW world. This isn't obvious from the book itself, but it is from his forum. While some PUAs may be worth listening to, I urge you not to buy this asshole's book.

Hmm. I'd be wary of judging an entire forum from superficial observations (not that you're doing so, I just wanted to get that out of the way since this post is in guest-viewables), but I can definitely see where you're coming from. This juvenile charade here, for example: http://manhood101.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 5&start=20 would never happen in this forum, where no dogma is enforced and freedom of speech goes both ways.


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Bloody cougars. I like what he's saying about if you reverse the roles. It was never uncommon to see women slap a boy. That was "normal" in the 70's.

I think women make a very big mistake when opting for violent solutions. The reason is that once women negate promoting peace and dialogue, then this promotes war. Even passive agression, which women are good at, causes the spread of violence.

Men are inherently peaceful. My peace is more often disrupted by passive agressive women than by a group of blokes. Put it this way. Imagine a ball game, where the spectators are predominantly male, imagine what a hell hole the place would be if all the spectators were women. People thought the football riots were bad, I don't want to think about what it would be like once a crowd of women got going. But I mean I've seen groups of women anihilating another female… holy Jesus don't get me started.


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Well, after downloading the free copy, and flicking through it, a number of things come to mind;

(1) It confirms my views concerning feminism, and the fact that most women are, to put it bluntly, bitches. (2) it also confirms my view that you will NEVER get laid by being a 'nice guy'.

Some of the (theoretical) exchanges between a man and his potential prey are pretty lame. If anything I would advocate in being even more direct in confronting one of these bitches.

Bottom line is, time is LONG overdue when it comes to calling women out on their bullshit. And I will tell you why. Because, what they offer - that is to say use of their mouths, asses and vagina's for sexual release, can be obtained easily and without embarrassment, by use of sex workers.

Do I need a woman to cook for me? NO

Do I need a woman to wash for me? NO

Do I need a woman to shop for groceries? NO

Can a woman fix my PC when it fucks up? NO

Are women good conversationalists? NO

Are they even sane? NO


So. all things being equal. It's obvious to me that the only use I have for a woman is somewhere to deposit my semen in.

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Okay. I have had a good read through said book.

Basically, it advocates acting like a fucking psychopath.

Don't waste your time with this shit.

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He goes into great detail in his assessment of feminism, most of it being so fucking obvious anyhow, then his advice consists of (a) get jacked, (b) become a control freak and (c) act like a complete cunt.

Now where have we seen THAT before eh? :roll:

My point is this; a woman should like you for WHO you are NOW. The REAL you that is. What the fuck is so fucking WRONG in not being perfect eh? is it a crime?

Am I so obnoxious and so ugly that I simply do not deserve sex? Well, obviously not. If people take the time to get to know me the will find out that I am not actually all that bad. I am just SICK of the fucking bullshit that exists SOLELY in people's heads. I did not put it there; NONE of us put it there.

He goes on about basically if you are overweight you are stupid and lazy and unable to control yourself. THAT I found to be offensive. I control myself too much. I am not one of these whales who cannot wipe his own arse; I can move far quicker than people think that I can and I can work your average pretty boy into the fucking ground. On my father's side of the family, males of 6"4 are not uncommon.

Once again we have a book that claims to be different but in fact is just more of the fucking same.

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Coby wrote:
http://www.lulu.com/shop/manhood101-com/the-principles-of-social-competence/hardcover/product-20038920.html

Written by a guy who runs a web-based community I used to once be a part of.

And by the way, I know that there are many members of this forum who would find his community and the courses he runs very useful as a side to posting on this forum.


the e-book should probably be split up ... the sections about 'maintaining authority' and trying to shoehorn in 'order' as some fundamental attractor
completely removed:

even if good looks represent a natural order (they do) that doesn't really change the value of looks
even if money represents power away from choas... that doesn't really change the value of money

if women really are attracted to 'order' then nice guys would finish first... the attack on nice guys as supplicating liars is just a way of dismissing the
fact that most nice guys are honest and direct about their intentions

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Well I'm 6'1" and of athletic stature. I may not be Brad Pit but I'm not exactly ugly. I mean, women don't shrink from me in horror when they first see me.

So IMO, I don't think women place quite such high importance on looks as men do. The reason could be is because a man needs to get a hard on in order to perform whereas women don't, so the pressure is not there to the same extent.

I've seen pleanty of short fat people with girlfriends, a surprising few I've seen with quite attractive girlfriends. I've seen some real saddo looking people with georgious girlfriends. I've seen clapped out 55 year old ex chainsmoking ex alcoholic lecturers with georgious girlfriends half their age. I've seen hard up ugly gits (neds) with nice girlfriends.

I don't think therefore money and good looks are prime obsticles. Ah and yes, I've seen guys who are well heeled who were also LS.

If you know Winston Churchills biography, he was LS but because he was so incredibly rich and well connected, he had collosal support and confidantes to help him get up the courage to ask out Clementine. Had he been eligiable today he would be on this forum, because I don't think there are any Clementine types around these days.

In those days there was an entire cohesive social structure where men and women could meet at dances each week. There was a whole courtship procedure. There were even manuals written on how to use the system for those that needed help. In those days being single was uncommon. You really had to WANT to be single and celebate in order to be single. Basicaly LS is a mid to late 20th century phenomenon due I think to a breakdown of cohessive culteral and social structure.

We are the casualties of our age. If the wrong words come out of your mouth, if you can't string together the sentences the woman is seemingly looking to hear, if you can't perform the correct body language whatever the hell that's suposed to be, then, your fucked.

Women seem to be looking for an indeterminate thing which I have no idea what it is, and clearly I don't have it. It doesn't help by the fact that women also keep knowledge and whereabouts of their meetups strictly classified. There is absolutely no social context inwhich women can be found. The exceptions are when you see gangs of girls on a binge and clearly hostile to male interest. On a Sunday you can see milions of smooching couples.

But as the population of LS people increases, I think ultimately the survival of the human species is in the hands of women. Relations between men and women on the whole are continuing to deteriorate and there is more and more violence against women. The less women deal with male needs, the more frustrated males become. The more frustrated and pissed off males become, the less they are willing to intervene when violent males come on the scene and commit greater and greater acts of violence against women.

We nice guys are more likely to fight for womens freedom and tend to those and other of their needs if women tend to our much simpler and less demanding needs. In the end, males have to risk their lives to protect the vulnerable. Women forget that they are among the vulnerable. Why should I fight for womens rights if these same women view my sexual desires of their bodies with utmost disdain? The answer is I will have no motivation to tend to their needs, if they can't tend to mine.

Women cover their ears. They refuse to listen. What is their fucking problem??? Why do women REFUSE to talk???? It's as if they have a death wish. They want to commit suicide. :crazy:


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Rudeboy41, that was good post. But I am only going to mention the minor points I disagree with.

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But as the population of LS people increases, I think ultimately the survival of the human species is in the hands of women. Relations between men and women on the whole are continuing to deteriorate and there is more and more violence against women. The less women deal with male needs, the more frustrated males become. The more frustrated and pissed off males become, the less they are willing to intervene when violent males come on the scene and commit greater and greater acts of violence against women.

The future of anything can't possibly be in the hands of women because women are not capable of independent thought. The way that women think is determined by their environment. And only men can think independently enough to change the environment. Any society left in the hands of women is doomed. It is up to men make society work.

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Women cover their ears. They refuse to listen. What is their fucking problem??? Why do women REFUSE to talk???? It's as if they have a death wish. They want to commit suicide. :crazy:

Even if a woman is beaten and raped, she will still reproduce. So in evolutionary terms, it makes no difference. It is the men here who really cover their ears and refuse to listen. These men are facing evolutionary extinction. They can take action to correct things, by finding a wife outside the femisphere and joining a traditional religion to provide a sane environment for their family. But to my knowledge, no men here have done this.

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