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It's really pricey out here for good cuts, so I've been avoiding it for that.

Yeah, I kinda expected the first chunk of weight to go really fast (plans were to drop a bit then focus on building awesome arm muscles so I can go canoeing without getting laughed at) but I've lost like 12 pounds before this, all way too fast. And this week, when I jacked my calorie intake right up I still would up losing tons.

Bought some relatively high calorie granola for breakfast and some peanut butter so hopefully I'll manage a couple of days of hiking without losing the rest of me.


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That's because it's mostly water loss.


Not going to argue that. But so what? If it's water that's being retained because of a shitty diet, then good riddance.

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It's really pricey out here for good cuts, so I've been avoiding it for that.

Yeah, I kinda expected the first chunk of weight to go really fast (plans were to drop a bit then focus on building awesome arm muscles so I can go canoeing without getting laughed at) but I've lost like 12 pounds before this, all way too fast. And this week, when I jacked my calorie intake right up I still would up losing tons.

Bought some relatively high calorie granola for breakfast and some peanut butter so hopefully I'll manage a couple of days of hiking without losing the rest of me.


I'm noticing an upswing in beef prices here in N.America as well. Boo. I likeses my steaks <3

I still say that if you feel fine, don't worry about it. As long as you're getting decent protein intake you shouldn't be worried about muscle wasting IMO.

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Another quick question, is it ok to end a day with a pretty hefty net calorie loss, more than 500?

And something to give back. An interactive running game! You so want this. https://www.zombiesrungame.com/


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Another quick question, is it ok to end a day with a pretty hefty net calorie loss, more than 500?

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one day? Probably not much of an issue. But several days or even weeks i would say no, you will become weaker.

Ideally you eat the amount of calories you need (not more, not less) and you burn excess fat through exercise.

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Another quick question, is it ok to end a day with a pretty hefty net calorie loss, more than 500?

And something to give back. An interactive running game! You so want this. https://www.zombiesrungame.com/


What Mitchell said IMO. But since I don't count calories, my opinion on this is suspect- for all I know, I'm running constant calorie deficits, or not... but since I don't count, I don't know. I just eat when I'm hungry. If that means I skip eating a meal whenever, no big deal. I did a week without eating anything between breakfast and dinner once. No big deal.

There's a particular site I like for info on paleo/primal diet/lifestyle, and his motto sums it up quite well IMO: "Eat like a predator, not like prey."

And speaking of super-predators, that zombie running game looks like a riot, too! Genius :lol:

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Ok. Massively pulled up my calorie intake, only increased my output by 2 miles a week and am still dropping weight way too fast. I don't want to stop losing completely (I think I'll perpetually be of the mind that I could lose just 2 more pounds ^^) but would really like to slow the loss down to a pound a week to focus on building speed instead.

I'm up to 1500 net calories a day with roughly 5 miles a day walking roughly 4 mph to maintain what I've done so far and running another 5-10 miles a week, in timed 2 mile sets. I've started doing some hikes and other high output things on the weekend but have been pretty good about loading up on quality calories.

I don't want to drop weight fast enough to be limiting my speed (good reason) and because my skin and hair seem less pretty when I'm dropping weight too fast (bad reason). I've already added a day a week at 2500-3000 net. Short of adding a fry up twice a week or eating more cuntpunching peanut butter, anything I can add in or anything start doing to just slow this down...at all? Pulling up my calorie intake hasn't done anything to slow it down yet.


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Salo? Everything's tastier with a bit of salo on top!

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Dammit. I stubbed my toe a few days ago and the pain hasn't gone away, in fact it's gotten worse and now I have a limp (when I step I get an irregular feeling in my calf that forces me to take the pressure off the leg). Not sure if broken or otherwise but definitely going to the doctor soon. Either way no running for me until this gets healed. Just maintaining my diet in the meantime.


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Back to my strength training program yet again. Did a half ass effort about 3 months ago...having a good start and updated routine this time. Want to get cut before summer arrives.


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Ok, I hate the gym. I hate it loads. I'm trying to sort out other activities I can add here and there to running instead of going to the gym.

Thus far I'm hiking around once a week, going to check out a swing dance lesson and booked for a riding class.

Can any of you fitness buffs think of anything else that's fun that someone might be able to pass off as cardio, in a pinch?


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Back to my strength training program yet again. Did a half ass effort about 3 months ago...having a good start and updated routine this time. Want to get cut before summer arrives.

Why summer? Is it because you want to look your best in a swimsuit? I find that I attain my personal bests during summer. Otherwise, I get sprains and strains too easily.

I have now started dead lift and squat again. By doing this I hope to increase my arm strength and size even more. A study was done with two groups of men who did the same arm excercise, but one group did lower body workouts as well. The non-lower body group increased 8% in upper arm strength and size while the other group saw an average of 37% increase.

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I have now started dead lift and squat again. By doing this I hope to increase my arm strength and size even more. A study was done with two groups of men who did the same arm excercise, but one group did lower body workouts as well. The non-lower body group increased 8% in upper arm strength and size while the other group saw an average of 37% increase.

I've read about studies that showed no difference in upper body hypertrophy and strength when doing lower body workouts. There are a lot of guys with huge upper bodies than don't train their legs at all. I think it's just a myth spread by broscientists.

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James_Young wrote:
I have now started dead lift and squat again. By doing this I hope to increase my arm strength and size even more. A study was done with two groups of men who did the same arm excercise, but one group did lower body workouts as well. The non-lower body group increased 8% in upper arm strength and size while the other group saw an average of 37% increase.

I've read about studies that showed no difference in upper body hypertrophy and strength when doing lower body workouts. There are a lot of guys with huge upper bodies than don't train their legs at all. I think it's just a myth spread by broscientists.


I don't know why men don't train their legs, ladies love legs.

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I don't know why men don't train their legs, ladies love legs.


Yes, we do!

It's strange when a guy has a gigantic upper body and skinny legs.


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Raskolnikov wrote:
James_Young wrote:
I have now started dead lift and squat again. By doing this I hope to increase my arm strength and size even more. A study was done with two groups of men who did the same arm excercise, but one group did lower body workouts as well. The non-lower body group increased 8% in upper arm strength and size while the other group saw an average of 37% increase.

I've read about studies that showed no difference in upper body hypertrophy and strength when doing lower body workouts. There are a lot of guys with huge upper bodies than don't train their legs at all. I think it's just a myth spread by broscientists.

This I have as well. This study came from the NSCA's most recent publication Strength Training, but I have heard otherwise. They claim lower body workouts result in higher concentrations of testosterone and thus aids in hypertrophy. Even if it is not true, it's nice to think it's helping, and, even if that is not so, working out my lower body makes me feel better as well (dopamine) if nothing else. Wonder if they have found out anything about that hyperplasia conjecture yet?

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