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It sounds gross but have you tried tossing an egg into your oats in the morning? It's not bad at all and if you need a way to sneak in some fat/protein right at the start of the day it's pretty awesome.


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What were you doing wrong with the bench press?


Wide grip. The lower I brought it to my chest, the more pain went to my shoulders and eventually I stopped bringing it down all the way to my chest altogether.

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Do you go below parallel when you squat?


In the beginning, we used a chair to help get a feel on how low we should go and once we did, we slowly and gradually reverted to not going below parallel.

The only routine I think I am doing 100% proper form is deadlift. Though since you said there was a large disparity...I am unsure.

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It sounds gross but have you tried tossing an egg into your oats in the morning? It's not bad at all and if you need a way to sneak in some fat/protein right at the start of the day it's pretty awesome.


This is funny, I swallowed raw egg yolk out of curiosity a few days ago, so I will have no problem with your intriguing suggestion.

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The one thing I still need to figure out and stop half assing is the diet. Eat 3500 calories a day. I have partially succeeded, I have gained weight but I think it has been more fat than muscle and my skinny fatness is beginning to show through my clothes. What are the 5 meals you suggest?

Here's an example of my own diet.

Breakfast: Ground Oats, Skimmed Milk and Low Fat Yogurt (mixed together), Orange. One Scoop of Whey with Skimmed Milk
Morning Break: Tuna Sandwichs (with wholemeal brown bread), Apple
Lunch: Mixed Veg with Fish/Lean Meat (whatever's on offer in the Canteen at work)
Afternoon Snack: Peanuts with Two Small Oranges
Dinner: Chicken/Steak/Beef/Fish with Mixed Veg and either Brown Rice or Wholemeal Pasta
Supper: Cottage Cheese and a Pear, and another scoop of Whey with Skimmed Milk.

Running the numbers, it comes to around 3500kcal and 270/280g of protein a day in total.


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Running the numbers, it comes to around 3500kcal and 270/280g of protein a day in total.


isn't that way to much protein, unless you weigh 130 kg or something, from what i've read you should take between 1,6 g to 2 g of protein per kg bodyweight, anything excess of that doesn't serve much purpose

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What were you doing wrong with the bench press?


Wide grip. The lower I brought it to my chest, the more pain went to my shoulders and eventually I stopped bringing it down all the way to my chest altogether.

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Do you go below parallel when you squat?

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In the beginning, we used a chair to help get a feel on how low we should go and once we did, we slowly and gradually reverted to not going below parallel.

The only routine I think I am doing 100% proper form is deadlift. Though since you said there was a large disparity...I am unsure.

As far as grip on the bench it really depends on the person. My pinky finger touches where the ring starts on the Olympic bars, which is where most people seem to grip. My friend who worked out with me had to do a closer grip because it would hurt is pecs otherwise going too far down with the bar. Just have to do what works for you.

As for the squat, you are actually supposed to go below parallel, which is why I suspect your squat is so much higher than your bench. Deadlift should be the highest of the 3, while squat should be in the middle, and bench last....but with your numbers your bench should at least be in the low 200's high 100's.

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That is how low you are supposed to go. I know when I started going that low my numbers got a lot smaller.


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Rossini wrote:
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What were you doing wrong with the bench press?


Wide grip. The lower I brought it to my chest, the more pain went to my shoulders and eventually I stopped bringing it down all the way to my chest altogether.

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Do you go below parallel when you squat?

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In the beginning, we used a chair to help get a feel on how low we should go and once we did, we slowly and gradually reverted to not going below parallel.

The only routine I think I am doing 100% proper form is deadlift. Though since you said there was a large disparity...I am unsure.

As far as grip on the bench it really depends on the person. My pinky finger touches where the ring starts on the Olympic bars, which is where most people seem to grip. My friend who worked out with me had to do a closer grip because it would hurt is pecs otherwise going too far down with the bar. Just have to do what works for you.

As for the squat, you are actually supposed to go below parallel, which is why I suspect your squat is so much higher than your bench. Deadlift should be the highest of the 3, while squat should be in the middle, and bench last....but with your numbers your bench should at least be in the low 200's high 100's.

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That is how low you are supposed to go. I know when I started going that low my numbers got a lot smaller.

Yep, according to powerlifting regulations: the top surface of the legs at the hip joint is lower than the top of the kneecaps.

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It sounds gross but have you tried tossing an egg into your oats in the morning? It's not bad at all and if you need a way to sneak in some fat/protein right at the start of the day it's pretty awesome.

Yes that does sound disgusting. I was eating 3/4 boiled eggs a day, but I found it was giving me nasty boils on the back of my neck, so I cut them out.

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Running the numbers, it comes to around 3500kcal and 270/280g of protein a day in total.


isn't that way to much protein, unless you weigh 130 kg or something, from what i've read you should take between 1,6 g to 2 g of protein per kg bodyweight, anything excess of that doesn't serve much purpose

I think you mean 1.6-2g per pound of bodyweight. It's 1g per pound that's the commonly quoted amount.


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foxyproxy wrote:
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Running the numbers, it comes to around 3500kcal and 270/280g of protein a day in total.


isn't that way to much protein, unless you weigh 130 kg or something, from what i've read you should take between 1,6 g to 2 g of protein per kg bodyweight, anything excess of that doesn't serve much purpose

I think you mean 1.6-2g per pound of bodyweight. It's 1g per pound that's the commonly quoted amount.



no, i'm shure its kg, we don't even use pounds over here, i'm usually around 2 g per kg bodyweight, though on fitnessfora i've heard many bodybuilders go to 3 g per kg bodyweight

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The other day when I was doing the benchpress, some random guy came up and suggested if I want to get rid of the "sticky points" I need to go with a lighter weight, bring the bar an inch above my chest and hold it there for three seconds, lockout and repeat until fatigue. It seems interesting but I don't know how effective it is, I don't want to waste my time because God knows I've wasted enough already. If that doesn't work, are there any suggestions? This problem is somewhat frequent.

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As some of you may be aware I lost most of my weight by doing lots of cardio, mainly High Intensity Interval Training(HITT).

Does anybody else here do HITT, and how much do you do per week?

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It sounds gross but have you tried tossing an egg into your oats in the morning? It's not bad at all and if you need a way to sneak in some fat/protein right at the start of the day it's pretty awesome.



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It sounds gross but have you tried tossing an egg into your oats in the morning? It's not bad at all and if you need a way to sneak in some fat/protein right at the start of the day it's pretty awesome.



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I take 1-6 raw eggs a day.


I'm sure you realize you're taking a risk with salmonella and all. Also from what I understand is that protein from cooked eggs is more easily digested by the body.


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I take 1-6 raw eggs a day.


I'm sure you realize you're taking a risk with salmonella and all. Also from what I understand is that protein from cooked eggs is more easily digested by the body.


The salmonella risk is way over stated. You have a better chance of winning the lottery. As for protein being more easily digested while cooked, that sounds like BS. The main drawback to raw eggs is that it stops your body from absorbing the biotin in the whites. This is only a problem if you only eat raw eggs, all the time. I usually only do it when I toss them in shakes, where they are perfect.


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It sounds gross but have you tried tossing an egg into your oats in the morning? It's not bad at all and if you need a way to sneak in some fat/protein right at the start of the day it's pretty awesome.



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I'm sure you realize you're taking a risk with salmonella and all. Also from what I understand is that protein from cooked eggs is more easily digested by the body.


That was from one study, studying only one metric - not reliable.

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ardia wrote:
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It sounds gross but have you tried tossing an egg into your oats in the morning? It's not bad at all and if you need a way to sneak in some fat/protein right at the start of the day it's pretty awesome.



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Yeah, back in Japan I used to be addicted to raw eggs and fermented soybeans. I wonder if you can even gt that here...


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