Maybe we shouldn't think of this as an option. But if we don't have hope, what else is there. Right now I can't think of one reason not to end it.

I've taken supplements, I've exercised. None of it does anything for depression. The only thing that reduces the depression is hope. Even false hope is better than no hope. Many seem to have friends, people they work with and social opportunities which give them hope. Even if every attempt is a failure there is still hope that there is a chance.

My life is a prison of solitary confinement. I work alone. I have no male friends at all, no female friends. No social life of any kind. No one to talk to. No social opportunities. I have one married female friend that I’ve know for around 10 years now. She knows about love-shyness and has read some of Dr. Gilmartins books. She has seen me break down and cry. But she just tells me that she can't help me because no woman would ever be interested in me.

I think the main reason that some haven’t had serious suicide attempts is because as painful as life is. Life has always been pain so they don't know any different. One thing I have learned is that nobody really cares if we live or die. They might say they care but they won’t do anything to help.

'She has seen me break down and cry. But she just tells me that she can't help me because no woman would ever be interested in me.'

Some friend you got there tylo.

I would break off this friendship RIGHT NOW.

Her kind of sadistic bullshit you do NOT need.

suicide

See, this is why I feel that NO PUSSY=NO FRIENDSHIP


I would rather have a tarantula for a pal than a woman.

Actually, tarantula's are rather cute and fluffy.

and how does she know that? is she fucking God?

Nooooo!!!!!!!!

She's a WOMAN...

Worship at her feet, Oh unworthy Love Shys.

Her word is LAW.

You must be JACKED. You must be A BAD BOY. You must have MONEY to be worthy of her notice.

Haven't you learned NAYTHING from being on this forum boyo?

When we first met and she heard I was single. She talked about setting me up. So I became her best friend. We became good friends and she read some of Dr. Gilmartins books. She set up some practice dating for me with some of her friends. But made it clear that they weren’t interested so don’t get any ideas. But she didn’t say anything about (other) girls not being interested in me or anything like that. Also most of the few social interactions I’ve had over the last 10 years were through her.

After around five years (which would be 5 years ago) one of her friends told her that she thought I had asperger's syndrome. She became convinced that I had asperger's syndrome. I read the description of asperger's and didn’t think it fit me so I got tested. She went with me when I got t he test results and talked the shrink and asked him questions and stuff. The tests showed that I didn’t have asperger's. But the shrink said the test showed that I have expressive language disorder.

Hearing that I have expressive language disorder is what caused her to believe that my situation is totally and completely hopeless. Which is when she started saying that no girl would ever be interested in me and stuff like that.



The thing is before I met her and had more social opportunities in my life. I had the opportunity to ask some girls out and got a couple yeses. So I have been on a couple real dates.





Most of the time she is good and doesn’t say that stuff unless we talk about my problems or I ask for help (she is very outgoing and knows thousands of people, yet she doesn’t know any single girls “yeah right”).

I've been starting to think that she doesn't want me to find a girlfriend.

well I will say this about your married friend. At least she doesn't give you any of the sugar-coated bullshit that most women give. We bitch so much about women saying "don't worry, you'll find someone" and I believe in getting frustrated at that. So here is a woman who has the balls to be brutally honest with tylo and as mean-spirited as that message is, I find it more forgivable than the usual alternative. Originality points. Obviously this does not help tylo's case, but there are attempts at fixing tylo's (and by extension most of ours) problems all over the forum.

As far as suicide goes, I would not consider it until I am at least over 30. Oh, and I had never determined what method I would use. When I read the wikipedia article on Christine Chubbuck, I thought she was my hero. A bitter hurt virgin at 30 and broadcasting your agonizing final suicide act to the country? awesome! I'd love to go out that way. I decided if I did not lose my virginity by 30 I'd have to seriously consider it, but before I did I would track down every girl I ever had fallen in love with or had become deeply infatuated with throughout my life (by my count there are now 11). All have rejected me without so much as one passionate kiss. I would write them each suicide notes explaining what I had gone through in my life and how they could have saved me, while I am certainly not beyond fault, they were a fraction responsible for what I am now and they will have to live with knowing they could have saved my life with their affection but they chose not to.

Then at 23 I lost my virginity in a brief but glorious relationship with a smokin hot salvadorean model. Problem solved, right? Then the girl left me not long after. I have gone back to my frustrated incel ways and often I wonder if those 2 times in my life I had sex really happened. The psychological issues build and now I wonder what would my timetable be to pull the trigger now. And how much did that one girl save me? I don't want to think about how much more messed up I would be if not for her. As much as the memory has been fading in recent years, I am eternally grateful for that time. She hit the reset button on my frustrations for a bit although they have returned now. Scary thing is the more I understand about my issues, the more I obsess over them.

I would just write ONE woman a suicide note.

Hope it would make her suffer until she died.

"John, this guy just send me a suicide note.."
"Hmm, okay.. Come back to bed, honey!"
"Okay.." *chucks note in bin*

Woman in question is now married to my sister.

Again you fuck up.

Are you really so stupid or is it an act?

To become as bitter and twisted as I am takes a special kind of pain. Which one day I may choose to end in a hail of bullets, and hopefully take some alpha motherfuckers with me.

YOU ARE INVITED!

Wow you are NOT funny.

He's also an arrogant opininated cunt. And one day, people like him will know EXACTLY what it's like to push me to far.

And when I DO go postal, I will make Sodini look like a fucking rank amateur!

It isn't worth it Mikey. Trust me it isn't worth it.

OH LAWD NOT GEORGE SODINI!

did you know he had a terrible aim?