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And I am sick of you having a go at me. Whenever the opportunity presents itself, you inevitably list all my faults, and go out of your way to demonstrate just how BAD I am.

Well I'll tell you what; PM Seb and Coby, and ask them what I am like.

By CONTINUALLY having a crack at me, it does two things. First thing it does is make me damn sure that if we were ever to meet in real life, I would beat you to a fucking pulp. Second thing it does is make you look a cunt. It seems like you are fixated upon me.

There are worse posters here. Posters who seem to feel that women should be subjegated. Funnily enough, I DON'T feel this way.

I wouldn't mind mate, but I am just tired of hearing you. Mikey's problem is this....Mikey's problem is that.

Well I'll tell you what my problem is; WOMEN. The piss poor choices they make when it comes to selecting a partner or someone to fuck.

Now. About my inheritance....I AIN'T GOT THE FUCKING MONEY YET DUMMY! At the moment I am living on fresh air. The estate has to go through probate; this takes time. And funny enough, fuckface, at the TOP of my list is NOT getting a hooker. No. Above that is (a) getting me some transport, and (b) carrying out a MAJOR upgrade on my photographic gear and my digital darkroom. Why? Simple. So I can do what I have been planning to do for years. And that is to undertake a major landscape project, and get my own website up and running. Photography is the one area of my life where I have control.

And finally, I am starting to fell better mentally. Now that I view women as things that can be bought. I no longer spend hours awake at night. I no longer feel worthless. And ya know why that is? 'coz I have ceased to give a shit.

You are not even worth pissing on.

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Insulted and angry in every case, just to a different degree depending on the situation.


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No amount of positive thinking, psychobabble crap, or happy pills will help you. You need to be loved. You need to at least know what a woman's body feels like. You do not need a lecture on self esteem, losing weight, dress sense, or positive mental attitude. What you need is a woman who can see the kind of hell you are going through, and reach out and help you.


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flattered at the initial interest.

embarrassment.

fear. oh no is this guy a stalker?

How do I make it clear I'm not interested ?


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flattered at the initial interest.

embarrassment.

fear. oh no is this guy a stalker?

How do I make it clear I'm not interested ?


Yeah, this is pretty much it.

However they do it, it still hurts, even if it's as friendly as possibly.

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A-ha! You're a misogynist blaming a gender for his own issues. I just KNEW it!! No wonder you can't get laid because women can se..... wait... what???

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Boronia wrote:
flattered at the initial interest.

embarrassment.

fear. oh no is this guy a stalker?

How do I make it clear I'm not interested ?


Yeah, this is pretty much it.

However they do it, it still hurts, even if it's as friendly as possibly.


Ooh yeah it hurts. The gossip from their friends can hurt even more.


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Mikey, if you actually WOULD beat e_i2 to a fucking pulp, make sure its in public and a lot of women are around. They'll think you are a bad boy and go crazy for ya :mrgreen:

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i doubt they feel any guilt most of them i know the ones ive been involved with have no remorse for their cruel behavior at all

lol@mikeys comment about the axe. your twisted mahn :P :twisted:


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When it comes to choosing a potential mate, women select with the disdain of someone checking the ripeness of tomatoes in a supermarket. There's a subconscious evaluation that takes place in the female's brain as soon as she spots a male. Some of the desireable items on the checklist are: the golden ratio in facial features, skin tone, height, signs of physical strength, posture, tone of voice (the deeper it is, the more testosterone), odour (pheromones), etc. all of these being signs that the male possesses good genes. Ugliness in any shape or form sounds alarm bells in her brain because it's a solid indicator of bad genes. If the initial genetic quota isn't met, the woman's brain is flooded with discomfort-inducing hormones, and from that point on she would rather sow her vagina shut than have anything more to do with the ugly male.

Afterwards she'll try to rationalize her initial feelings of repulsion, but it all comes down to undesirable genes (and here TIC is spot on). Telling the ugly male that she isn't interested is more about saving face than anything else. She'll put her orgasm-faking acting skills to work and muster up as much faux concern as she can, and there's entire volumes that can be written about all the wonderful euphemisms the female has at her disposal to discard the male in as politically correct a way as possible.

The immediate effect of rejection is that any male who fails to pass her genetics test isn't really seen as a "man" anymore, but is instantly emasculated and degraded to the status of "friend", "gentleman", "nice guy"; in other words, he becomes one of the girls. The female loves the attention and social validation that comes with being approached, because this shows her desirability and elevates her in the eyes of other males, but she has nothing but contempt and cold indifference for the male that fails her genetics test and secretly wants to run away as fast as possible, preferably to her alpha male protector (this is called "distancing myself" in womanese). If she can get away with it (that is, if the male is so low-status that it doesn't matter how he's treated) she'll react with cruelty and sociopathy.


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Stigmata wrote:
When it comes to choosing a potential mate, women select with the disdain of someone checking the ripeness of tomatoes in a supermarket. There's a subconscious evaluation that takes place in the female's brain as soon as she spots a male. Some of the desireable items on the checklist are: the golden ratio in facial features, skin tone, height, signs of physical strength, posture, tone of voice (the deeper it is, the more testosterone), odour (pheromones), etc. all of these being signs that the male possesses good genes. Ugliness in any shape or form sounds alarm bells in her brain because it's a solid indicator of bad genes. If the initial genetic quota isn't met, the woman's brain is flooded with discomfort-inducing hormones, and from that point on she would rather sow her vagina shut than have anything more to do with the ugly male.

Afterwards she'll try to rationalize her initial feelings of repulsion, but it all comes down to undesirable genes (and here TIC is spot on). Telling the ugly male that she isn't interested is more about saving face than anything else. She'll put her orgasm-faking acting skills to work and muster up as much faux concern as she can, and there's entire volumes that can be written about all the wonderful euphemisms the female has at her disposal to discard the male in as politically correct a way as possible.

The immediate effect of rejection is that any male who fails to pass her genetics test isn't really seen as a "man" anymore, but is instantly emasculated and degraded to the status of "friend", "gentleman", "nice guy"; in other words, he becomes one of the girls. The female loves the attention and social validation that comes with being approached, because this shows her desirability and elevates her in the eyes of other males, but she has nothing but contempt and cold indifference for the male that fails her genetics test and secretly wants to run away as fast as possible, preferably to her alpha male protector (this is called "distancing myself" in womanese). If she can get away with it (that is, if the male is so low-status that it doesn't matter how he's treated) she'll react with cruelty and sociopathy.


Interesting. Some years ago I read "The Selfish Gene" by Richard Dawkins and I found this post. It made me think.

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"There has been no genetic change since we were hunter-gatherers, but deep in the mind of modern man is a simple hunter-gatherer rule: strive to acquire power and use it to lure women who will bear heirs; strive to acquire wealth and use it to buy affairs with other men’s wives who will bear bastards . . . Wealth and power are means to women; women are means to genetic eternity.

Likewise, deep in the mind of modern woman is the same hunter-gatherer calculator, too recently evolved to have changed much: strive to acquire a provider husband who will invest food and care in your children; strive to find a lover who can give those children first-class genes. Only if she is very lucky will they both be the same man . . . Men are to be exploited as providers of parental care, wealth and genes." - Matt Ridley "The Red Queen"

"Humor won’t save you; it doesn’t really do anything at all. You can look at life ironically for years, maybe decades; there are people who seem to go through most of their lives seeing the funny side, but in the end, life always breaks your heart. Doesn’t matter how brave you are, how reserved, or how much you’ve developed a sense of humor, you still end up with your heart broken. That’s when you stop laughing. In the end there’s just the cold, the silence and the loneliness. In the end, there’s only death." - Houellebecq


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Alright, "The Selfish Gene" is brilliant. Dawkins pretty much single-handedly changed the way biologists think about evolution, placing emphasis on an animal's ability to procreate and removing the importance of survival. Moreover, he debunked the myth that survival of the species is an important factor in evolution. Survival of the individual is the only thing genes care about. I'm gonna copy and paste something I wrote a while back when I was trying to explain this to a friend of mine. This is my take on why "The Selfish Gene" applies to us. If you're not that into biology, hopefully this will effectively sum up what Dawkins is saying with respect to us:

Men are attracted to health and beauty. Women are attracted to status. Here's why. The reasons are supported by culture but developed evolutionarily. A quick word on evolution: Due to the nature of evolution, any gene that increases an organism’s ability to reproduce itself will become dominant in the gene pool. That is to say, if female peahens began to prefer mating with male peacocks that had outrageously colored, large tails, the gene for supertails would come to dominate the population because it is the gene that is being reproduced into the next generation. This is really an oversimplification of the process but will serve for our purposes.
Let’s say then, that a male human living in prehistoric times has a gene (or more accurately, a series of genes) that lie on a certain chromosome. There are two options (alleles) that this gene codes for. One option (male A) is that the male will be largely monogamous and will, after procreating with a member of the opposite sex, stay around to help the woman raise his child. The other option (male B) is that the male will leave immediately and attempt to procreate with another female as soon as possible. Let us also suppose that having a male present to help raise a child by providing protection and food for the mother-child pair gives the child a 100 percent chance of surviving. (I know that this is not true but once again it will serve for our purposes.) If the male leaves, however, the child has only a 50 percent chance of survival. In a one year period, male A, our monogamous male, will pass his genes on exactly once, giving him 1 copy of his genes in the next generation. Let’s say that our philandering male, male B, can procreate with 20 females in the same year period. Due to the fact that he is not around to raise his children, though, half of them die. This still leaves 10 copies of his genes moving on to the next generation. There are now 10 copies of the philandering gene and only 1 copy of the monogamy gene in the next generation from these two males in this one year. As we can see from this one example, any gene that selects for philandering males will come to dominate the population. Moreover, the only thing a male needs to select for in this case is health and beauty since he’s not sticking around. Healthy, beautiful females give the male’s genes the best chance of survival not only into the next generation but beyond (procreating with desirable mates generally produces offspring with their desirable traits).
This is all well and good for the male, whose genes are dominating the population. This is not so good for the 50 percent of females that lose their child. They now have 0 copies of their genes in the next generation. If their genes do not code for a way to keep males from running out on them, they will quickly be weeded out. Therefore, let us look at the females. There are two main ways in nature for a female to prevent a male from leaving her in the lurch like this. The first is called “nest building.” Many female birds force their males to court them by building elaborate nests that take lots of time and energy to create. There is no point in a male running off and mating with another female in this society. The new female would just make the male build her a nest that would take all the time and energy the male could be putting into keeping its already created offspring alive. Generally, women in their 30s become nest builders. They are looking for a man who demonstrates his status in such a manner that it shows her he can provide for her and her possible child. Girls my age (24), however, are generally not nest builders.
They are looking for alpha males . The other oft-used strategy of females to keep their offspring alive is to find the strongest, savviest, most intelligent member of its species and reproduce with it. The idea, here, is that its superior genes will give its offspring a greater chance of survival, regardless of whether the male wanders off. Gorillas do this. So do sea lions. One male will mate with hundreds of females. The other poor males are left with nothing. In gorilla and sea lion societies, the alpha male is generally the one that can beat up all the other males. Human society has bred women to select for slightly different criteria. Our women look for social status.

You’ll notice that nowhere on this list do you find “they are nice.” Niceness does NOT convey status. It is largely irrelevant. If anything, “nice” is a minus to most women. It conveys that you are acting as such because you are needy. Confident men are not needy and therefore generally don’t trouble themselves with thinking about how they make other people feel. I hear women complain all the time that they only seem to end up dating jerks. NO DUH! YOU’RE THE ONE SELECTING FOR THIS! Moreover, guys don’t select for nice either. Nice girls don’t give their genes a better chance for survival. Nice is, unfortunately, irrelevant.
This explanation is really just the bare bones of what Dawkins and Ridley (The Red Queen , Genome) are saying. If you're interested in a more accurate, complete picture, read the books. However, I understand that evolutionary biology is not everyone's cup of tea so hopefully this saves some of you some time. Good luck!

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"There has been no genetic change since we were hunter-gatherers, but deep in the mind of modern man is a simple hunter-gatherer rule: strive to acquire power and use it to lure women who will bear heirs; strive to acquire wealth and use it to buy affairs with other men’s wives who will bear bastards . . . Wealth and power are means to women; women are means to genetic eternity.

Likewise, deep in the mind of modern woman is the same hunter-gatherer calculator, too recently evolved to have changed much: strive to acquire a provider husband who will invest food and care in your children; strive to find a lover who can give those children first-class genes. Only if she is very lucky will they both be the same man . . . Men are to be exploited as providers of parental care, wealth and genes." - Matt Ridley "The Red Queen"

"Humor won’t save you; it doesn’t really do anything at all. You can look at life ironically for years, maybe decades; there are people who seem to go through most of their lives seeing the funny side, but in the end, life always breaks your heart. Doesn’t matter how brave you are, how reserved, or how much you’ve developed a sense of humor, you still end up with your heart broken. That’s when you stop laughing. In the end there’s just the cold, the silence and the loneliness. In the end, there’s only death." - Houellebecq


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Chick here.
It depends on who's being rejected. If it's a guy you don't know very well, at first you feel pride, it's kind of an ego booster to be told you're hot. Then a few days later you feel guilt.

If it's someone you know well and you just don't want to be with them in a romantic way, you'd probably feel more guilty because you already care about that person's feelings.

If it's just some random old pervert giving you sexual comments, then you just laugh and leave. Kind of an ego booster too.

Do we think about the hurtful consequences? Not immediately, but we might think about it later. I know I do.


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When it comes to choosing a potential mate, women select with the disdain of someone checking the ripeness of tomatoes in a supermarket. There's a subconscious evaluation that takes place in the female's brain as soon as she spots a male. Some of the desireable items on the checklist are: the golden ratio in facial features, skin tone, height, signs of physical strength, posture, tone of voice (the deeper it is, the more testosterone), odour (pheromones), etc. all of these being signs that the male possesses good genes. Ugliness in any shape or form sounds alarm bells in her brain because it's a solid indicator of bad genes. If the initial genetic quota isn't met, the woman's brain is flooded with discomfort-inducing hormones, and from that point on she would rather sow her vagina shut than have anything more to do with the ugly male.

Afterwards she'll try to rationalize her initial feelings of repulsion, but it all comes down to undesirable genes (and here TIC is spot on). Telling the ugly male that she isn't interested is more about saving face than anything else. She'll put her orgasm-faking acting skills to work and muster up as much faux concern as she can, and there's entire volumes that can be written about all the wonderful euphemisms the female has at her disposal to discard the male in as politically correct a way as possible.

The immediate effect of rejection is that any male who fails to pass her genetics test isn't really seen as a "man" anymore, but is instantly emasculated and degraded to the status of "friend", "gentleman", "nice guy"; in other words, he becomes one of the girls. The female loves the attention and social validation that comes with being approached, because this shows her desirability and elevates her in the eyes of other males, but she has nothing but contempt and cold indifference for the male that fails her genetics test and secretly wants to run away as fast as possible, preferably to her alpha male protector (this is called "distancing myself" in womanese). If she can get away with it (that is, if the male is so low-status that it doesn't matter how he's treated) she'll react with cruelty and sociopathy.


Looks don't matter nearly as much as you think they do. Sure, they play a role, but personality does too. Personally I'm attracted to the boys others consider ugly because they tend to be sweeter and more intelligent, and I've met other girls who are attracted to that type of guy too. The main problem is that geeky guys like that are everywhere, so the girls who are into that type of guy might not notice you in the big crowd.. :(


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depends on the woman i think... you got what i would consider the vast majority who feel awkward about it...
then you got your stuck up too goods who go and laugh about it with their friends/ or are total bitches
then theres my personal favorite, the girl who is angry that you would think that she is remotely interested in meeting anyone at all. aka the "just wanna dance" girls. who complain that they cant go anywhere without getting hit on. Even though they're at a club, dressed like a 12 dollar whore, and dancing like a girl in a rap video.

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Maybe the odd bit of amusement, but not much else.

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