Still that accent......You Brits, Aussies and Kiwis have an excellent advantage. I am not saying that will carry you, but in the states....Americans with any class love the way English is spoken by you folks.

The American 'Venacular' seems to drop further by the week. The 'American' accent so to speak probably was at it's best during the Victorian period in the States (1840's-1901 roughly)very proper compared to today, yet distinctly different in its inflection. The American newespapers from this period really show this. The recent remake of "True Grit" with Jeff Bridges....the writers got it 'spot on' for the American english of the period. Sad in a way that people don't speak like that here anymore.

Good post, and I am often told that if I ever visited the USA, some women would love my Aussie accent, but who knows?

said in my best attempt of yank doing a BBC accent "No. It isn't off topic."

Oh, so all we've got to do is go to acting school and learn how to do different accents.

I once tried for a postal course with Ross Jeffries speed seduction school... Enough said.

I'm reminded of fairy tales where the magician has to say "Open Sessame" and the mountain opens up and reveals all. I guess women are the mountain.......... They either open up or they don't. Unfortunately for me they tend to remain in the closed position.

I gather you tried PUA techniques, and they failed you?

They most certainly did. I've tried a huge amount of stuff. I've done NLP courses, had years of psychotherapy, done courses at different universities and colleges, travelled, tried different social circles, different towns, different friends, get exactly the same results no matter what I do. The one thing I haven't tried is terror and the threat of violence.

People keep telling me that the key to success with women is to be nice and understanding and empathic and listen and be open and above all be patient. But Hitler found that all he had to do was forget about all that psychobabble, put on a pair of Jackboots and beat the crap out of everyone and it worked; Ava Braun went out with him.

The US finds that violence works. I think it's time to learn a lesson from G.W.Bush. He's married. If I had a gang of mates who wern't afraid to use fists we could go out on a weekend and meet women, and if they get fresh we piss on their weekend so that they have a really miserable time. Afterall, women piss on us because they can get away with it. But the thing to remember is that the times we live in are an abberation in human history. We tried a human experiment which was to let women have some rope. They've abused our hospitality.

The planet is a stone that hurtles through space at thousands of miles per hour. Everything on that stone effects everything else. Millions of us blokes have died in 2 world wars that women might have their 'liberty' but all they've done with it is persecute us. We chaps are not so forgiving of each other. i.e. if you piss on me I'll kick your head in. If I piss on you you'll kick my head in. We both know this so we evolve civility towards each other. That way we chaps get on and we respect each other. But women are temporarily excluded from the cordiale because we have been duped into thinking this is the right thing to do, and if we just give the women more and more power and allow ourselves to be oppressed and trampled over more and more then somehow everything will turn out good.

We've taken non violence to ridiculous levels. You cannot build a house by trying to PUA the bricks to assemble themselves. No amount of reasoning with the bricks will make them form themselves into a house. To build the house, you need an army of builders and lots of brute strength either from the bicepts or from using high wattage machinery like JCBs and power drills and concrete mixers and cranes.

So I have decided it is with women. We need to recognise that our anger and rage and violennt turmoil is useless if it goes unexpressed. IF a women is a bitch we must shout at her and say "your a FUCKING BITCH!" simply because it is what honesty is about. We don't need to smile and act gracious, nobody is paying us to be polite. Politeness is something you EARN. Why should I keep giving away my politeness for free????

I trained hard in the arts of politeness and being reasonable, why should I give it away without due payment for my efforts? The same goes for everyone here. We need to re own our violence. Violence is not evil. The only reason we believe it is is because women obviously don't want to be called to account. When a man steels he goes to jail. When a woman steels, we stupidly let her off, because women use their charms to maximise their gains. This is logical. But they must be trained to be more sincere. If women want us nice and reasonable they must provide us with a REASON to be. This is our world too! We can do what the fuck we like. We need to learn how to loose our tempers in public in ways to deliver maximum humiliation to women. Then they will realise that if they want a good time, they will have to pay for it like the rest of us. It's called getting along, or having a two way street. I know I sound like a troll because I'm not able to couch what I say.

You read my stuff and you think I am a spy who wants to catch you. So you think I am having a joke. But as long as you read what I say and think about it, I'm not saying you should disregard the law or incriminate yourselves. I know people get into trouble for calling women bitches. In Israel I once pourd a pint of beer down a girls back and kinda almost got into trouble, but th epoint is I got away with it. And one needs to learn how to do these things without getting into heavy amounts of trouble. I don't know of any miracle tactics. Hitler seems to be the best role model available. We've got to become masters of oratory and advocate as much terror as possible. We have to encourage violence against women. They WILL cow to sufficient terror. Look at the Jews. Look at the Palestininians and the Arabs, most of them are cowed down under the US assault. Women there are being slaughtered all the time.

Look at Guantanamo Bay and Bagram. The prisoners were forced to speak under sufficient waterboarding and other methods of coersion. These techniques can be applied to women and they WOULD work. They WOULD eventualy talk and explain everything we need to know. Now I'm not saying that you must go out and use these techniques. I'm saying you must speak openly to other people about the use of these techniques. Speak loudly. I need a group of blokes, so that I can speak loudly about this in places where there are women so that they hear, will be drawn in, so that the trap can be sprung and like the NAZIS, who would stand up and SHOUT and behave in such violent ways that people around them cowed down with FEAR and then when the NAZIS asked a woman for a date she said "YES" and peace reigned, and everyone was happy and cordial and it was all very fair.

Well I don't care what you all think. I'm going to make it happen with or without you. And I'm going to terrorise anyone who gets in my way.

I thought that was actually very good! Those two date coaches seem very down to Earth and not as PUA-ish as other seduction coaches.

All three of the guys made progress, so I guess it worked?

No it didn't work, and I wouldn't trust a PUA dating coach as far as I could pick one up and throw one. The PUA industry is a fucking fraud and scam.

The only guy who succeeded in the end was the tall reasonably good looking bloke, and only because of his looks, the other two guys got nothing.

Did you not watch the full video?
Even the really short guy said he was going on dates at the end of the video. And the overweight guy was going out to clubs and such.
All three of them made good progress compared to where they were at before.

What was so PUA about the two date coaches? Nothing they said seemed remotely PUA to me, it seemed like mostly good advice.

Yes I did, and if I memory serves me correctly, both the fat and short guy got nothing, and the tall dude got a brief make out with a drunk bar slut. What was so PUA about the dating coaches?, simple they were telling the three men to cold approach random women at cafes etc, and that is text book PUA "daygame" tactics.

The best advice the PUA dating coach could have given was for the fat guy to get his arse in the gym and lose weight, with the tall dude, he just needed to maybe improve his dress sense and maybe a more stylish haircut, and with the short dude, that's a tough one.

I remember watching that program when it came out. I thought it was absolutely diabolical. I felt ill watching it.

An ideal dating coach would already have a huge circle of female frends and also a partner. His partner would also have a huge circle of friends. Put it this way. Dating coach meets woman:
DC Hi, do you want to be with me?
Woman: What do you do?
DC I'm a dating coach.
Woman: @££"$%^&

OK so he's managed to pull it off, so he's got his woman. As a couple, they're into helping guys get hitched. So they know a huge circle of friends, and people. So therefore they can introduce the LS guys to the people and get hitched to one of them. Simple.

The reality is that these dating coaches are pratts. They have no skills in life. What are their credentials man? Every respectable proffession has credentials. Maybe if there was a university degree in coach dating, then we have a chance to debate the viability of the practice. But right now, there are NO recocgnised certifications or university accredited vocational studies in the subject of Date Coaching. When there is one, I will probably look into it.