Hopefully someone diplomatic here will translate what I am about to say into a form that irnbru can tolerate. But here is my version:

irnbru, you can't have it both ways. You may not be bothered by how many sexual partners you end up having, but your future husband will be. Of course most men will deny this. They are what we call manginas, lacking integrity and honesty. This is what you will end up with if you become a slut before becoming a wife. Of course you will be able to marry no matter what you do. Many men are so desperate that they are willing to marry almost anything. But you will not get the best quality man if you do not consider what it is that men want. And in human history, the most important trait for a wife has generally been chastity. This makes evolutionary sense. So if you want a quality husband, you cannot just go with the flow which will inevitably lead to you becoming slut since this is currently the standard procedure for women in our society.

Nice pun

You may not be but the type of man you want to marry probably will.

Most men don't want to marry a woman that's slept around. Take that into consideration if you do want to marry down the line. Not to mention statistically speaking the more men you're with the less likely a marriage in the future is to succeed.

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just another entitled princess. Try NEVER being in love ever. Try YEARS of being alone and no one is attracted to you. What started out as shyness is now just a source of anger. What you want and what you say are never equally twain.

Who said I have ever been in love? The reason I'm single is that I'm not willing to be in a relationship with somebody I don't have feelings for, you call women who enter into a relationship based on shallow pretenses a whore. And at the same time, just because I get attention from somebody, you seem to act like I'm obliged to take them up on it whether I like them or not. You should really make your mind up. If I were a man you'd probably be applauding me for attracting the opposite sex!

I'll give you that
won't give you that though. We get guys on here every now and then complaining about situations not unlike your own. They get told to fuck off just as much as the women.

There's some nice suggestion. Get A LOT of booze inside you, and attend this forum's meeting. Tons of frustrated guys.
You won't ever complain about lack of experience ever again. We all gonna make it so. You will be soooo full of experience, it'll literally be dripping out of you!

He's angry because women hold up such high standards and he, like all of us, is not capable of meeting them. I'm not defending him, but you do need to understand that years of rejection, friendzoning, loneliness, ridicule etc. can lead to a lot of festering resentment. I myself often get angry, depressed or frustrated by the plain sight of a couple holding hands and find myself thinking 'why not me? what's wrong with me?' etc.

When I reminisce about my past I often get frustrated and depressed and think that at least they (the girls I liked) could have given me a chance. I have many positive traits to compensate my negative ones, but they immediately friendzoned me. This was the best case, in some cases I just got fuck-off signals for my effort and was treated like garbage by women.

When a man like us sees women fucking every man in sight except for him, that leads to a lot of bitter feelings and thoughts like 'why them and not me, I'm no different than them. This is unfair' etc.



Not really, I'd more likely be jealous/envious.

A lot of men on here are angry at women...but there are also a lot of great guys on here who are just frustrated, and it comes out in anger. Don't worry too much about that, we aren't a hateful bunch!

You really should try going on dates with some of these guys. Even if you don't feel anything for them at the moment, you might feel something later? Love isn't always instantaneous.

I think that your previous avoidance of attention and inability to reciprocate interest, and a lot of other things you mentioned are symptoms, not causes.
I'm not sure if this is the root cause, but I believe an issue closer to truth is that you just don't feel good enough. If people like you or show interest you feel like you've "tricked" them somehow. You can't go against your behaviour that creates this "illusion" because you're still anxious not to offend people, to fit in. So you keep doing the things that make people like you (not that it is contrived or manipulative, it's second nature), but you then feel like a walking, talking fraud when it results in what it does.

At least, that's what I feel like, and several things you said map to a few things that go through my head.

So the answer? Some people might tell you that you "just need to build some confidence" and "learn to love yourself" etc, which is partly right. Everything in moderation, however. I think the most beautiful, real humans have doubts about themselves. There's some honesty and humility in it which I am not sure is worth trading in for a deluded form of self satisfaction

No, I think the simplest solution will just be to go on a few dates just as you are about to do. You will hopefully grow to feel more comfortable in that alien situation where you're being complemented and courted, you'll come to be a little more secure in the fact that people won't throw you aside once they see the "real" you... or at least you'll see the "real them" at the point they bail out and see that the few who do this are doing you a favour.
You will also slowly let go of that little bit of self identity which actually clings to being celibate, to not putting yourself out there, outside of your comfort zone... to being what you are now. At least, I guess that's what would happen. People get used to nearly everything once they start doing it, even terrible things. History has shown us that. People with phobia's have the most success by just confronting the phobia. Psychology has shown us that. Life experience should also show that this principle applies in other areas, to other fears. So there's no reason to think love shyness and ourselves are any different.
However, acknowledging this as an intellectual fact is one thing, believing it down to an emotional level is another and that's where most of us here find ourselves stuck, at impasse. With our role as males being what it is, it's easy for us to keep getting knocked back into this no-mans-land as we try to come out of it.
Use the advantage you have as a woman in getting approached (as annoying as this may be at other levels, a lot of the time) and see if you can get out. I personally don't begrudge your your opportunities at all, I wish all the men here whose stories I read had the same... so as a genderless human to another human I am happy for you.
Good luck.