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PostPosted: 08 Mar 2012, 21:07 
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Hi, I wonder what is your opinion about this.

I am born and live in Canada. The standards of living are considered high here. Yet my life is very unfulfilling. My job is crap with a low salary, have no success at all with women and almost nobody shares my views on anything. I feel like a reject here. It's like I am not wanted by my compatriots.

Can emigrating in another country be a solution? I mean, if you move to a place where people accept you more and where you actually belong, maybe it's easier to find a job and make money? Also have more success with women? Or is it not worth it? Maybe it would be even worst elsewhere?


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I tried moving to another state, Washington State, to be precise. I hoped to find the things you seek, in a sense. More outdoor activities, friendlier people, a life that wasn't depressing me. I came back after 4 months. I was just felt more alone than ever in a place that would have been beautiful had there been people to share it with. My sister for one. Being the introvert I am, I didn't make friends. How could I? I just went, rented a room, and tried to find a job. It took me a month to find the job. The new minimum wage was the same as I'd been previously paid, I had to drive an hour everyday, the cost of living was higher. I just lost money and people took advantage of my vulnerable disposition. I longer believe that things are better just over the hill. I mean, its okay to set out to find things that are better but its important to make sure you have safe guards in place to make it work. I thought at the time nothing could be worse than what I was leaving. I came to wish that the worst people could do was to ignore me.

Where are you thinking about going?


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Emigrating can be a wonderful experience, as it removes you from an environment that doesn't suit you. But it can be bloody hard as well if you're not prepared or if you place too much hope in it. When I was in France, I thought I'd be so well abroad, that's all I could think of. But you carry your crap with you everywhere. If you don't solve them at some point, no matter where you go, it's catching up with you. There is no ideal place to be.

I think the good thing to do is to be realistic. Sure, it'd be good mentally as you discover new things, if you are ready to struggle a bit at the beginning. If you're used to be around people, it's hard at first cause you have to do everything alone. The simplest stuff can be hard abroad, paperworks and all.

The mistake is also to believe that people will accept you abroad, immediately, without conditions. You still have to do your best, you have to pull yourself together and accept that it might not be that easy. Took me a year and half to feel really fine in Ireland, even though people are very friendly here. The rest of your questions kind of go together: if you feel better somewhere else, usually, your state of mind change a bit, you're more relaxed or open to meeting new people.

I think emigrating is a rewarding experience anyway, as it forces you to kick your own butt, be self-aware, do your own shit and finally act instead of just talking and daydreaming.


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I_Fail_at_Life wrote:
Hi, I wonder what is your opinion about this.

I am born and live in Canada. The standards of living are considered high here. Yet my life is very unfulfilling. My job is crap with a low salary, have no success at all with women and almost nobody shares my views on anything. I feel like a reject here. It's like I am not wanted by my compatriots.

Can emigrating in another country be a solution? I mean, if you move to a place where people accept you more and where you actually belong, maybe it's easier to find a job and make money? Also have more success with women? Or is it not worth it? Maybe it would be even worst elsewhere?


I would not immigrate to America, thats for sure. Unless you like fascist police states, of course. I doubt you would.

And paying though the nose for healthcare, that is substandard at best these days, if you can even get on a plan at all.

Wages here are not good, since most unions have gone belly-up too. Walmart left Canada due to the pressure of unions.

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I_Fail_at_Life wrote:
Hi, I wonder what is your opinion about this.

I am born and live in Canada. The standards of living are considered high here. Yet my life is very unfulfilling. My job is crap with a low salary, have no success at all with women and almost nobody shares my views on anything. I feel like a reject here. It's like I am not wanted by my compatriots.

Can emigrating in another country be a solution? I mean, if you move to a place where people accept you more and where you actually belong, maybe it's easier to find a job and make money? Also have more success with women? Or is it not worth it? Maybe it would be even worst elsewhere?


I would not immigrate to America, thats for sure. Unless you like fascist police states, of course. I doubt you would.

And paying though the nose for healthcare, that is substandard at best these days, if you can even get on a plan at all.

Wages here are not good, since most unions have gone belly-up too. Walmart left Canada due to the pressure of unions.


You are wrong about Wal-Mart. There are hundreds of Wal-Mart in Canada, and the chain is quickly expanding. There is one like 3 miles from my home. They always seem packed. Maybe you are thinking about Germany?

Before moving anywhere, I would make sure I have a job over there. Being poor in the US doesn't seem very fun, but if you have a decent job, it doesn't look so bad. By the way, my plan to move in another country is more a fantasy than reality. I am just thinking about it, but not seriously. I mean, I might get a criminal record soon. If I get one, I pretty much can't go anywhere.

As for what country I would like to go, I have absolutely no idea. Any place where I am accepted by the people and can get a wife, I would accept. The people must be white.


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That criminal record thing is shit. Its disgusting how people like to give those out like candy pretending it doesn't matter. Give the world a justification to teat people as shit is all it does.


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So, a bloke died and went to heaven. Soon, he became bored and dull of all those sunshines and valleys, clouds and angels singing.
Here came the devil. 'Quick! Exclusive trips to HELL! Sex, drugs, and rock'n'roll! Have fun! All you always wanted to do, but were never permitted to!' So, the bloke went to a trip to HELL. After multiple days or orgies with hellish vixens, vodka, mind-blowing drugs, and all other funnies, he went back to heaven.
-Hey, God, I am bored here. I think I'll leave this place and move to HELL permanently. After some debates, God finally let him go.
As soon as bloke overstepped the gates of HELL, they dragged him down, put some pichforks into his body, and dunked him headfirst into a boiling lava cauldron. Devil pulled his pants down, and violated the bloke from behind, hysterically laughing.
The bloke was sooo devastated: *sob* *sob* Why? What is happening! Noooo! It wasn't like this last time I was here! It was fun! Why are you doing this to me!
-Mwahahaha, silly mortal. NOW you will finally understand the difference between TOURISM and IMMIGRATION! :rofl:

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Iori_Yagami wrote:
So, a bloke died and went to heaven. Soon, he became bored and dull of all those sunshines and valleys, clouds and angels singing.
Here came the devil. 'Quick! Exclusive trips to HELL! Sex, drugs, and rock'n'roll! Have fun! All you always wanted to do, but were never permitted to!' So, the bloke went to a trip to HELL. After multiple days or orgies with hellish vixens, vodka, mind-blowing drugs, and all other funnies, he went back to heaven.
-Hey, God, I am bored here. I think I'll leave this place and move to HELL permanently. After some debates, God finally let him go.
As soon as bloke overstepped the gates of HELL, they dragged him down, put some pichforks into his body, and dunked him headfirst into a boiling lava cauldron. Devil pulled his pants down, and violated the bloke from behind, hysterically laughing.
The bloke was sooo devastated: *sob* *sob* Why? What is happening! Noooo! It wasn't like this last time I was here! It was fun! Why are you doing this to me!
-Mwahahaha, silly mortal. NOW you will finally understand the difference between TOURISM and IMMIGRATION! :rofl:


Lol, this story is funny.


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I think Dsea makes a lot of great points.

My opinion on this would be a trans-atlantic move. I realise this is a tall endeavour, and if the payoff doesn't come, it's a huge gamble. I see it from the idea of it being such a difference that it's like wiping the slate clean. So if you're in the US/Canada, then try UK or Europe. If you're native to Europe then try UK or US/Canada (little bit like Dsea has). Opposites attract, and I'd like to think that you would get some success because of it. Yes, language comes into play here, but if you're fairly serious, it can be done. (e.g You move from US to Italy, start learning Italian, get a job, etc - and probably impress a LOT of people there ;)). My eldest brother has less flair for languages than I do, and he's living in Belgium now (my family is in the UK). He's been there for quite a few years, and had a Dutch gf. His fluency in Dutch now is pretty strong. :) I'm exceptionally impressed by that.

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Actually I feel like I should qualify my reply.

If you only go ahead and do this for sole purpose of D/S/R, I think you will be disappointed. ;o I believe you need to be in love with the idea of moving because of the place itself, the people, the language, or some similar reason. The D/S/R will hopefully be a byproduct of going and being there, but it can't be your main reason.

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"Dovie'andi se tovya sagain." - Mat Cauthon, Wheel of Time (Robert Jordan)
"Give me back my face!" - Rorschach, Watchmen (2009)
"A man who fears nothing, is a man who loves nothing, and if you love nothing, what joy is there in your life?" - Arthur, First Knight (1995)
“Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Speak the truth, always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong. That is your oath…” - Balian, Kingdom of Heaven (2005)
“Everything that happens once can never happen again. But everything that happens twice will surely happen a third time.” from 'The Alchemist', Paulo Coelho
"Train yourself to let go, of everything you fear to lose." - Yoda, Episode III
"I didn’t know how empty I was. She sustains me, she thrills me." - Marke, Tristan & Isolde (2006)
"There is a strange sense of reassurance in the inevitability of something." - Webley Tempest
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