True... but The apostle Paul was just a man. I prefer to take it from the word of God himself:

"For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let the one who is able to receive this receive it.” - Matthew 19:12

See... I've learned to receive it. Doesn't mean I'm not bitter about it. We all know that "acceptance is a bitch", but I have no other choice at this point in time. I want to be a MAN; not a BOY. Yeah, I'm 5'8" and 112 lbs, but I not only pull my own weight, I pull the weight of those who surround me. And only God knows that It's REALLY taking It's toll on me...

If December of 2012 really IS the end, I have no fears. If God exists (which I'm sure he does), I already know that I've earned my place in Heaven. He, and only He, knows my heart. Humans don't. Don't get me wrong, I know I have my own demons and that I am guilty of sin; especially when it comes to sex. I'm not saying that I'm a saint. I'm not saying that I'm the world's last bastion of hope either. I'm far from it. I just want to be a man of peace, honor, and dignity... but these PUAs are making it REALLY difficult!!!

It was a joke, I agree it was a bad one.

We're not PUAs. PUAs do this "if she says this, I neg, if she says that I DHV". The core of what we preach is "be normal" and "be yourself". The company itself is more self-development oriented than it is pick-up. Look, if you approach a girl in a coffee shop and get her number, by definition you did "pick up", there's nothing wrong with that.

And hey, why don't you try living without the rules of God for a while? see what it's like without them. It's all a part of finding out who you really are. I'm only saying this to help.

But yeah, I was afraid that the vids might be too much. Since he openly discusses things outside the comfort zone of even "normal" people. Just watch this one, I think it'd help. It's about being more positive. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTjww638 ... ature=plcp

'Be normal'
'Be yourself'

Heard it all before. While I don't disagree with the idea, not many people actually know how to be themselves. Especially when you're shy. Shyness actually prevents you from being yourself. You have a mental barrier that blocks who you really are. Just saying this cliched rubbish over and over again doesn't help.

In my personal experience, you need to get over your fears before accomplishing anything. I've written all about it in my 'Story so Far' thread in the R+R section. I used to find it so difficult to even talk about DSR, so the first thing I tried to do to actually express my heterosexuality was to use my absolutely favourite TV programme (guess what it is) and have a picture of Karen Gillan as my phone background using the excuse 'well, she's from Doctor Who, so it's okay' and then went from that to pics of various other non-Who related women on my PC desktop. Then I got into convos with workmates about why Doctor Who is so brilliant, citing Amy Pond as a good reason to watch. Moving on from that I could then express my interest in other celebrities. It went on from there.

My advice would not be to 'be yourself', but rather 'don't be someone else'. Trying to be someone else and falling flat on your arse just makes you look like an idiot. I would also say relax, but that's not easy. You can only relax if you have no worries and fear causes you to worry. When I was with einy, I didn't think about my performance. It may have been because we both knew each other's secrets before we met and so we didn't have to try to hide anything. The thing is I believe many guys here are so terrified of women finding out about their inexperience, or that they won't measure up, or that they'll do something wrong, that they can't relax and be themselves.

I believe I may be an odd case because I can relax. I have trained myself not to give a shit what others think of me. I am a proud Whovian, will proclaim my love of Lego for anyone who wishes to hear, will jump around like a maniac at Karaoke singing Led Zeppelin, and still have foot long hair after loads of people have told me to cut it. THIS is what people need to do. I've said it repeatedly, if a girl shuns you because she learns you're a virgin, she's not worth being with anyway. Guys need to learn to shrug it off and move on when a girl rejects you. It's not easy because it feels like a personal insult. Especially after the first fifty or sixty times. But it can be done. If anything bad happens or I feel anything bad will happen, I'll just say to myself 'Well, the world will keep turning if it goes tits up'. It always makes me feel better, but may not work for everybody.

Added to this 'be yourself' bullshit is all those bad boys who get loads of women, yet pretend to be a Nice Guy TM at the beginning. Obviously they're not themselves, but they still manage to get girls. It's about being relaxed

x57.....this has been always my basic message.

You are 100% correct in this. There are ways to overcome that. The main one being "get reference experiences". Your brain is scared. So you need to provide your brain with EVIDENCE that you're not gonna get killed for approaching a girl. There's an analogy of the first time you put on contact lenses: at first your eye wants to close reflexively (your brain thinks "WTF are you doing?), but after a while, even if not completely it wears off. Your brain wants proof, not promises.

1. 'Be normal'
2. 'Be yourself'
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Contradiction DETECTED! The system will now shut down...

Ugh, gee, what happens when women dont want to talk to you and ignore you like you were something they found on
the bottom of their fuck-me-pumps?

Or worse, they call you ugly, get the the sisterhood to hate you too and use shaming verbal expressions like "Ewww"?

You have an answer for everything, dont you, even though you never walked in our shoes and no nothing about LS, isn't
that correct?

Tell cripples to walk too, do you? Brag to blind people about how wonderful it is to have vision? You disgust me you dirtbag.

what do I do when women do that to me? nothing, I don't give a fuck. It really doesn't matter what some people think of me.

And I guess I'm trying to tell 'blind' people that they're not actually blind, that they just need to open their eyes. Really man.

And I was LS, it's not like I'm super confident now. And I probably will for the rest of my life, but things are definitely better.

Questions for bbcereal:

Are you associated with the RSD organization, as management, lecturer, sales rep, etc.?

Are you associated with any other PUA, dating, coaching, or personal development organizations?

Are you representing an organization as a sales agent of any sort (related to LS.com subject matters)?

Which personal development organizations have you been a customer of? How much money have you paid them for their services? How would you rate their effectiveness?

Is your purpose on LS.com to recruit new members for any such organizations?

Do you receive a monetary award, bonus, or discount for referring someone to RSD or any other personal development organization?

RSD is a PUA scamming group plain and simple, expect to be treated as a PUA while you're here. As a business model RSD has a lot in common with pyramid sales so you can also expect to be treated as a fraudster if you're in any way affiliated with RSD or even if you're just promoting their methods.

You guys are in a shitty place, I thought I'd try to let you know that you can get yourselves out of it. That is all.

And I haven't taken any programs. I torrented one called "The Blueprint" which is one of the most amazing things I have ever watched. They put out enough free content constantly for you to improve without having to pay anything.

LOL! ANOTHER PUA! Trying to get us to "just see the light" and slap our foreheads Polish style and say "you are such an Alpha bbcereal.....I wouldn've never known this if it wasn't for you arriving here trying to help us"

I saw David DeAngelo speak in person in SF. Let me guess, you'll direct us to a website in no time soon to "buy" this guys' DVD, books, and sign up for his personal "bootcamp"

We're not chumps.

This crap feels me with rage.
Kinda like those scumbag businesses in Russia which sell fake medicines, including ones the help 'cure cancer' and whatnot. They prey on the desperate relatives of the suffering ones, and sell them useless mixtures and pills which do nothing for a tangible sum.

This. All the confidence in the world isn't going to to do you a fucking bit of good if the vast majority of women act like they would prefer to be gang-raped by Freddy Kruger, Jason Vorhees, Leatherface, and a bunch of HIV infected zombies than even be in your presence forget dating you or being your girlfriend!!! What's a guy to do then?!?