I'd say that anything after 20 is pretty hard to start dating.

Funny you mentioned this because I was just talking to a woman about my dating experience of how I can go anywhere from a few months up to a year with no dates,

and she even admitted that that is a problem for men. She was saying she wouldn't no what to do if she had to wait that long for dates. She said as a woman she never ever had any trouble at all finding dates from her teenage years to her mid 20s. She said as a woman she pretty much could go from one guy to the next with dates within a week or so.

I then told her that I don't have it as hard as some guys who never dated at all in their entire lives (or go 2 or 3 years between dates).

It's the truth, to put it simply. But isn't it strange how all the women you meet will deny it until the cows come home. That's because they know deep down it's a serious problem and are just choosing to ignore it.

That's the american mentality. When there's a problem, just pretend it doesn't exist and move on.

People say both genders have their own sets of difficulties to deal with when finding someone, but when you go out there and observe things (or through your own experiences), women clearly have the advantage. When you have one gender holding all the cards, it's going to cause a certain amount of people from the opposite gender to be forced out. With women holding all the cards it's even worse, because they are shallow by nature, looking for the most strongest man who could be a provider. That might be part of biology but that doesn't make it right, and it doesn't mean it can't be challenged. I mean, look at the chart posted here.

I can't imagine being in my 40's and still being a big-nothing when it comes to women, dating and relationships. I can't imagine it in my 30's either That's will be when the people who tell you 10 years ago to hang in there and do whatever you can will start to be more realistic and admit you are SOL.

In today's world it's males who are getting the short end of the stick. It just doesn't seem right that a person who is suffering that they won't be able to find someone because they are somehow not good enough. That's a really hurtful thing to tell someone. I think everyone is unique and everyone has talents and strengths but women today are too busy judging and filling their head with american idol and next top model. But what am I saying? This is how society is now. If you aren't what "they" consider good enough "they" could care less if you live or die. This is 100% real and it can be proven with time and effort through a dating site.

I hate to say this, because I have nothing against it but moving out of your parents house at a young age is another part of the breaking up the family agenda. In Asian countries they stay with parents until they get all their shit straightened out.

Yes, it is a horribly big deal for me. The longest I've ever managed to maintain a romantic relationship was when for about 5 months when I was 20 (28 now). I realize I'm doing better than a lot of people on this forum, but at the same time you'd think that if you break the barrier and actually fool a woman into liking you, it would just get easier. However, the older I get, the fewer women there seem to be around, and when I do manage to connect, the "relationship periods" keep getting shorter and shorter. My last one being 2 years ago. I fear my window is close to shutting forever, and I'm not even 30 yet.

They always say; "Be Yourself", however, 'Myself', is, apparently, an incredibly huge turnoff. I'd actually think about taking some kind of free acting workshop class or somthing if that prospect in and of itself wasn't so terrifying.

I think dating is definitely easier for people who are very social, have a large circle of friends, and you're considered a 7 or above in the looks rating (I really don't get this neither do I believe it!)

But I do think once you've left the school/college/university time of your life, it's harder to get into the dating game. As during your teens, you are expected to experience and experiment things. Plus you are kinda expected to have male and female friends, therefore going out with someone is inevitably easier. When you are older, and get into the work zone, you can't experiment or mix very well. Plus in many workplaces, relationships aren't allowed between colleagues. And depending on what type of job you have, when do you have time to attempt to find a potential interest.

I am 2 months away from being 25, and yet have no experience nor a boyfriend. I know 'they' say men would like a girl who have no experience, but the majority want a girl to have had experience so they get pleasure and enjoyment themselves.

Don't necessarily jump to that conclusion. I think at least from my point of view, I would quite like a girl who has no experience either. It would make me more relaxed about the whole thing. I would perhaps worry less, and feel less intimidated as we'd be on an even footing. Would be much more comfortable. ;o And just in case it wasn't clear, my point of view = almost zero intimate experience.

It's different for you because you have a hole between your legs. In this society you have a form of power no guy will ever have and that's the ability to find romantic partners, and sex with no effort at all. Just the fact that you are a living, breathing female puts you in the drivers seat.

How is it that different? You have a penis which you can stick in any hole you please. We both have the 'equipment' but the same problem in that fact, we're too shy to get anyone to use it. Guys have the ability to find a romantic partner, just the same as you say women can.

And you being a living breathing male doesn't put you in the driving seat?

Cherrystar, even if you are shy you are the chooser. You can choose the guy who will be suitable for ya. It's your power. By being woman you have sexual & romantic power to CHOOSE. Shy, introverted or ugly males are powerless. They are expected to initiate and often they can't/or are rejected.

This is unfortunate biological inequality.

You can no more understand what its like for men with loveshyness, than we can understand what its like to menstrate.

It is not the same, and if you think it is, then you don't have the slightest grasp on the actual social dynamics surrounding heterosexual male/female interactions.

Women control the pussy, women control the world.

Men don't have choice. Only the top 20% alpha players.

Love-shyness is a mental condition, so women can be incel as well if they have the required psychological hang-ups. Hardcore incel women, on the other hand, who are not LS are practically non-existent. Cherrystar seens to be of the former group, i.e. too shy to reciprocate, too shy/not outgoing enough to go to wherever dateable men are. As someone with social anxiety, she probably does not get out much (typical old spinster material unless she gets over her mental hang-ups, I'm sorry Cherrystar).

Men have no choice. They are the buyers, women are the sellers.