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gmartinfan · **Posted:** 08 Feb 2012, 01:36

zerosense wrote:

Fantastic post, gmartinfan.

Also, somewhat related to this topic, how do you feel about the Florida law demanding welfare recipients take drug tests? I thought it was a pretty good idea at first, but now seeing how much it is costing for the tests, just seems to be addressing the symptom not the problem.

Personally. I think if you are going to be on "welfare" and every state is different in its services. No, I don't think you should have to submit to a drug test. HOWEVER. If you are busted for dealing drugs out of your home.

Take a walk. that is my money. if you have time to deal drugs, gamble your food stamps away you obviously don't need the help that much. I beleive in a safety net, just not three generations of a safety net and I don't care what "color" you are

Since the early 1970's (in general, in the USA) the poor are never asked or expected to change their lifestyles. Their mistakes, or poor choices. They have been accomodated, and even the ammount of "government" aid that has been spent in America since "Great Society" (President Johnson 1964/ 1965) to help the poor, most of it has been eaten up by "administration" "pensions" and more government. The tiny portion that has made it to the poor has not been well administered, and sadly not enough to really help the ones weho do need it.

Many non-profits have DONE more with tiny budgets. Many local community charities have made changes. Look at the Dept of Health and Human Services. the "Ceo" of that agency makes a cool 3/4 a million a year........gets raises, gets a bouns. Gets to schmooze with powerful people....and the agency is failing. Miserably. The CEO of The American Red Cross makes 52k per year, and look at the astounding work they do!

In the end, if you don't want to change what got you into living on the streets, all the money / funding isn't going to get you off them.

gmartinfan · **Posted:** 08 Feb 2012, 01:36

zerosense wrote:

Fantastic post, gmartinfan.

Also, somewhat related to this topic, how do you feel about the Florida law demanding welfare recipients take drug tests? I thought it was a pretty good idea at first, but now seeing how much it is costing for the tests, just seems to be addressing the symptom not the problem.

Personally. I think if you are going to be on "welfare" and every state is different in its services. No, I don't think you should have to submit to a drug test. HOWEVER. If you are busted for dealing drugs out of your home.

Take a walk. that is my money. if you have time to deal drugs, gamble your food stamps away you obviously don't need the help that much. I beleive in a safety net, just not three generations of a safety net and I don't care what "color" you are

Since the early 1970's (in general, in the USA) the poor are never asked or expected to change their lifestyles. Their mistakes, or poor choices. They have been accomodated, and even the ammount of "government" aid that has been spent in America since "Great Society" (President Johnson 1964/ 1965) to help the poor, most of it has been eaten up by "administration" "pensions" and more government. The tiny portion that has made it to the poor has not been well administered, and sadly not enough to really help the ones who do need it.

Many non-profits have DONE more with tiny budgets. Many local community charities have made changes. Look at the Dept of Health and Human Services. the "Ceo" of that agency makes a cool 3/4 a million a year........gets raises, gets a bouns. Gets to schmooze with powerful people....and the agency is failing. Miserably. The CEO of The American Red Cross makes 52k per year, and look at the astounding work they do!

In the end, if you don't want to change what got you into living on the streets, all the money / funding isn't going to get you off them.

kpuccino · **Posted:** 11 Feb 2012, 23:33

Help people : Yes !

but be careful to help people for themselves not to feel better and deviate your problems. Same shit but cold in my area. Making my part by giving food.

Good conclusion Cenobite !

GrinSweeper · **Posted:** 14 Feb 2012, 18:42

My father used to say: "Who am I to decide whether a homeless person should spend $10 on food rather than whiskey? Perhaps he wants whiskey."

He was a true believer in classical economics.

ardia · **Posted:** 14 Feb 2012, 18:46

GrinSweeper wrote:

My father used to say: "Who am I to decide whether a homeless person should spend $10 on food rather than whiskey? Perhaps he wants whiskey."

He was a true believer in classical economics.

More true today than ever...

Coby wrote:

My unemployed good-looking male friend, who has been unemployed now for 13 years, goes on heaps of casual dates and is serious with 2 girls at once. They don't care that he hasn't got money, but he has the looks though, and it seems that's all they're into in him. His personality is that which one would consider a "wimp", "suck-up" or babyish for a bloke in his mid 30s. He talks to women as if they were all little baby girls. Yet he gets heaps of dates, is in a relationship with 2 women at once, and fucks like a rabbit.

Seb · **Posted:** 11 Mar 2012, 12:27

gmartinfan wrote:

This morning I was in a large "resurrection city" or "tent city" in Fresno. It's beneath, on and around the Monterey Street overpass just off the downtown area. It is filled with despair, and smells of excrement and failure. The homeless. The drug addicted. The deformed. About two thousand people "live" here if you can call this living. It reminds me of the slums I saw around Bangalore when I was in India so long ago.

The Salvation Army is permitted by the "street justice" of the area to enter and serve bread, broth, and prayer. We give socks, give some toiletries and counsel "Brother, there is a better way" the suggestion of rehab services. The encouraging words. Sometimes blankets. During the summer months, we bring large water drums with a spigot for them to fill up their containers large and small (Fresno summers crest 100 degrees daily)

The women of shame who have been wronged and ruined by pimps, drugs and a mans' hand get help. Basic first-aid. A cleaning of a wound or open sore. Hugs are had, tears are shed by us and them.

You can ask "where are the social services" what is the government doing to help? Help only goes so far and giving someone a check just enables some of these behaviors that got many of these folks into trouble; and where they are now to begin with.

Do we fail with these types of people, in my city? Yes, with many of them we do....but that does not excuse us not to love them, and DO something all the same.

Guys as bad as our LS is...remember in your community, your country, you hometown. There is a need. Do something! Lend a hand to the unfortunate. Volunteer not to meet a girl, or be deemed cool by "Hollywood" standards. Do it because it is the right thing to do.

This has nothing to with LS. But if any of you want to help the needy, the addicted, the rotting souls, the broken world, the hungry. PM me. I can put you into contact with your local Salvation Army, Red Cross, Community Food Bank, or Rehab Center (sacred or secular) in your area.

Thanks for reading this.

Stickied for the forum’s edification – Uncle Lappy

Great post, I sometimes donate old clothes (that are still wearable), to the local charities, and since I have lost a ton of weight, and have shrunk out of my old clothes, I think I will do a purge of my old big clothes, and donate them to charity..

And inspite of the sadness that incel/LS can bring, there is always someone worse off than you.

alienafternoon · **Posted:** 19 Apr 2012, 03:22

You are a very good person, gmartinfan.

Malek · **Posted:** 19 Sep 2012, 07:44

I was in the Catholic students group in college, and one of the things they did on Saturday was go to a local community center and serve bag lunches to the homeless. Some of these people drove up in cars that were nicer then what I had. Some of them would snatch the bags out of our hands as we were handing them out. None of them, not even one, ever said thank you. One woman told me she wanted a lunch for her friend who was too embarrassed to come up and get one, I said sure, 5 minutes later I see her feeding the food to her fucking dog, which didn't look like a mongrel either. That was the one and only time I ever did that volunteer work. I was so disgusted by it, I've since talked to some other people who volunteered at soup kitchens and they had similar stories. The 'homeless', some of whom were overweight, were either taking advantage of a free lunch, or they were so ungrateful you ended up not wanting anything to do with them ever again.

alwayslate · **Posted:** 12 Apr 2013, 23:01

Why is this piece of shit bumfucking conservitard thread stickied?

Laplacian · **Posted:** 13 Apr 2013, 07:23

alwayslate wrote:

Why is this piece of shit bumfucking conservitard thread stickied?

Because you’re probably a bad person.

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