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 Post subject: Prometheus
PostPosted: 02 Jun 2012, 21:14 
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Yeah, I don't think I need to say how good it was. The best Alien Universe film since Aliens, possibly ever. Go see it now!

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Wow, I actually get to use the spoiler tabs for their intended use :clap: Anyway, the only thing I have against the film, and I mean ONLY, is the ending. The whole idea for the film came about by Ridley Scott's desire to find out what happened to the Space Jockey. And we do find out. Yes, it is brilliant and not what I was expecting, but that's not my point. This stemmed from an image in Alien with the Space Jockey at its control room, dead after a xenomorph had clearly burst out its chest. Yes, the Space Jockey dies, and yes, a xenomorph bursts out if its chest leaving the Space Jockey dead on the floor of THE PROMETHEUS ESCAPE POD!!!!!! This fantastic image from HR Giger simply does not exist in the film leaving a fairly major continuity error and destroying the entire premise on which the film was made. Why?

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Does one have to have seen the other movies in the series to understand this one fully?


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Does one have to have seen the other movies in the series to understand this one fully?


Nope, but to fully appreciate the last half hour, it is useful. The plot is a completely independent story and is only a prequel to Alien in that it is set on the same planet.

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How does the horror element sit in this movie? Is it more gory/bloody oriented like Resurrection or jump/scare like the orginal Alien?

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Hmmm...might actually go to a theatre for this one...

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Does one have to have seen the other movies in the series to understand this one fully?


Nope, but to fully appreciate the last half hour, it is useful. The plot is a completely independent story and is only a prequel to Alien in that it is set on the same planet.


The same planetoid, as in A L I E N, or as it was later named, "Acheron" (LV-426)?

Seems an unlikely place for supposed the "creators of humanity" to call their home-world.

In the original movie, it was made clear that "LV-426" was a small, desolate "rock in space",
and that the Space Jockey and his spaceship had crashed-landed there, along with the "Aliens".

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Does one have to have seen the other movies in the series to understand this one fully?


"Prometheus" is not out in the US until June 8, but my best guess is that watching "Alien" and "Aliens" would help to
understand the outline of the film better but, of course, I could be mistaken, since I haven't viewed this film yet.

The other, later "Alien" films take place off of the original planet LV-426, where the space cargo-vessel,
"Nostromo" and the Colonial Marine's military vessel "Sulaco" set down on, or orbited, and would not really
add much to the understanding of "Prometheus", IMO.

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Hmmm...might actually go to a theatre for this one...


I'd have to be dead, or in a hospital, before I would miss a sci-fi action film like "Prometheus". :check:

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How does the horror element sit in this movie? Is it more gory/bloody oriented like Resurrection or jump/scare like the orginal Alien?


It's not really that much of horror. It's more pure sci-fi than anything else. The genre is more like 2001 than Alien.

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Does one have to have seen the other movies in the series to understand this one fully?


Nope, but to fully appreciate the last half hour, it is useful. The plot is a completely independent story and is only a prequel to Alien in that it is set on the same planet.


The same planetoid, as in A L I E N, or as it was later named, "Acheron" (LV-426)?


Okay, interesting thing I did notice was that the planet was called LV-223. Not sure whether this was a cock up, or intentional. Scott has gone on record saying he might do another film, so it might be answered. But for all intents and purposes, I'll treat it like the same planet.

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Seems an unlikely place for supposed the "creators of humanity" to call their home-world.


True :sunglasses:

Also, I found it brilliant when you see a close up of David's finger. When you see it, look at his fingerprint. Fantastic!

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Hmm...I haven't seen any of the Alien movies, but I do love me some summer blockbusters...might have to check this one out.

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going to see it in about 5minutes.
it better have a big talking head. :x

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I adore the Alien series (even the supposedly rubbish Alien 3 and 4). Weird as it sounds, Alien was a childhood film of mine - I think it is haunting and horrifying and beautiful. I've been looking forward to Prometheus for a while (I went to the screening looking like a complete dork, wearing a Weyland Corporation t-shirt with a Chestbuster plushie...) I have to say, I wasn't so enamoured of it. The acting was very good, but the plot seemed meandering. I also disliked (very mild spoilers)
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the faith versus science aspect - I think that's too easy a dichotomy to shove into films.
But then again I had to watch it in 3-D, which I loathe, and it always drags the viewing experience down for me.

There were some fantastic scenes in it though, and the visuals were beautiful. It's very unscary, but as the Doctor says, works on a pure sci-fi rather than horror level.


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I adore the Alien series (even the supposedly rubbish Alien 3 and 4).


Woo hoo! somebody else who likes those two. I've always liked Res. It had a slightly different plot than 'an alien's loose and killing everyone'. 3 was saved purely by David Fincher's direction. For a debut film being messed up by the studio he did a VERY good job of it. the extended edition is the better one though.

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Weird as it sounds, Alien was a childhood film of mine - I think it is haunting and horrifying and beautiful.


I'm kinda there with you. I grew up knowing about the series, but never really watched them until I was 15. But for me it was Aliens. I played the PS trilogy game and loved it (though today, I'm not entirely sure why). I remember seeing the video of Aliens at my cousin's house, but I wasn't allowed to watch it (not because my parent's considered me too young, but due to the one telly, and the presence of my smaller brother, I couldn't. So I resorted to the only thing you could do back in those days. I read the novelisation. I've never really got into novelisations of any kind, but Alan Dean Foster's versions aren't too bad. I read the omnibus of the first three. My mate had a video of Aliens and I watched it at his place. Shortly after, I got the box set of all four at Christmas. I flogged them a few years later to upgrade to DVD, and now I've given those to my brother (now old enough to watch them) while I bought the Bluray.

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I've been looking forward to Prometheus for a while (I went to the screening looking like a complete dork, wearing a Weyland Corporation t-shirt with a Chestbuster plushie...) I have to say, I wasn't so enamoured of it. The acting was very good, but the plot seemed meandering. I also disliked (very mild spoilers)
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the faith versus science aspect - I think that's too easy a dichotomy to shove into films.


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I don't really consider that a spoiler, but since you put it in tags, I will as well. I always look forward to sci-fi that tries to do that. Some do it well, (Star Trek DS9, Star Wars), some, not so well, (Star Trek V). I think it's a brave subject to attempt properly. I admit doing that for the sake of doing it is pointless, as is most things done just because. But when it tries to answer the question of whether religion is still relevant in a scientifically advanced society, I respect it.


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But then again I had to watch it in 3-D, which I loathe, and it always drags the viewing experience down for me.


Really? I managed to watch it in 2D in a small Cinema. I usually like 3D, but the ticket was like half the price if I went 2D so I decided to save a bit of money. Also, I saw the Avengers in 3D. Not very good because it was converted in post. I'll now only see 3D if it is RealD. Nothing like it.

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Yeah, I don't think I need to say how good it was. The best Alien Universe film since Aliens, possibly ever. Go see it now!

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Wow, I actually get to use the spoiler tabs for their intended use :clap: Anyway, the only thing I have against the film, and I mean ONLY, is the ending. The whole idea for the film came about by Ridley Scott's desire to find out what happened to the Space Jockey. And we do find out. Yes, it is brilliant and not what I was expecting, but that's not my point. This stemmed from an image in Alien with the Space Jockey at its control room, dead after a xenomorph had clearly burst out its chest. Yes, the Space Jockey dies, and yes, a xenomorph bursts out if its chest leaving the Space Jockey dead on the floor of THE PROMETHEUS ESCAPE POD!!!!!! This fantastic image from HR Giger simply does not exist in the film leaving a fairly major continuity error and destroying the entire premise on which the film was made. Why?


I agree. I just watched the film, and although it had a few good parts, I was very let down at the ending, with the Space Jockey not seated dead in his flight chair, as in A L I E N, as you pointed out.

There are far too many gaps and holes in the storyline, when you compare it to A L I EN, and with what we know about DNA now, compared to 1979, to boot.

All in all, "A L I E N" was the better film, by far. "Aliens" was just as good, with lots more action. Still in all, it was worth the eight bucks I spent. Ridley Scott could have done much better in the ending sequence, had he chosen to do so, and that's a fact.

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Horrible movie... Disjointed plot, inconsistent tone, vapid philosophizing about the meaning of life, bland characters (with two exceptions), and sequel-bait ending.


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